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Post by JaneB on Nov 27, 2009 13:16:00 GMT -5
I hate to have the dissenting opinion here, but if I must... Just like many others, the concert in Shepherd's Bush in May was the first time I had ever seen him live, so you all know how long that wait was. What I wanted to shout to the audience many times was "SHUT UP!" I didn't wait 33 years to hear the audience sing "Father & Son." Now when I listen to the recording from that night, I am so disappointed that Yusuf's voice is just about drowned out by that of the audience in several songs, not to mention the random "woots and hoots" or whatever the heck they are. I, for one, would like nothing more than to sit back and just listen to the man himself. I don't think he requires much in the way of vocal accompaniment.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2009 13:30:02 GMT -5
I hate to have the dissenting opinion here, but if I must... Just like many others, the concert in Shepherd's Bush in May was the first time I had ever seen him live, so you all know how long that wait was. What I wanted to shout to the audience many times was "SHUT UP!" I didn't wait 33 years to hear the audience sing "Father & Son." Now when I listen to the recording from that night, I am so disappointed that Yusuf's voice is just about drowned out by that of the audience in several songs, not to mention the random "woots and hoots" or whatever the heck they are. I, for one, would like nothing more than to sit back and just listen to the man himself. I don't think he requires much in the way of vocal accompaniment. Well said, I totally agree. |
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Post by flemmishfangent on Nov 27, 2009 14:26:53 GMT -5
Alto i can come in in what you say Jane the fact that He and we were singing was just so wonderfull as if we were one big family otherwise when they start to shout things or playing wistle with there fingers that's something that drive me crazy .i ALSO LOVED IT THAT LITTLE ARIANNE WAS SHOUTING GRANDDADDY I LOVE YOU SO SCHATTIG AND WE ALL CALLED HIM GRANDDADDY SO WILD WORLD IS FOR ME THEGRANDDADDY SONG FOREVER Regine
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Post by SuzieQ on Nov 27, 2009 17:17:13 GMT -5
Helen's latest videos.
Don't Be Shy
I Think I See The Light
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Post by helen on Nov 28, 2009 13:05:44 GMT -5
YES. YES I HAVE DONE IT
This is a first.
Its Yusuf singing "moonshadow" with Noel Sullivan who plays
Stormy in Yusuf musical
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Post by crobarbie on Nov 28, 2009 13:43:12 GMT -5
BRAVO !!! Clap clap clap  tnx Helen |
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Post by aurelia on Nov 29, 2009 6:53:27 GMT -5
I give you part of my videos because very long to charge. Qualitée is not very good. It misses only two songs[youtube]I give you part of my videos because very long to charge. Qualitée is not very good. It misses only two songs
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Post by tediber on Nov 29, 2009 12:04:01 GMT -5
Aurelia, thank you so much for letting us see your videos - they're great!
Helen, I really LOVED the Moonshadow piece with "Stormy". I honestly thought I'd imagined the bit where Noel sits down next to Yusuf's mug of tea and gestures towards it, before Yusuf shakes his head at him.
It could be just me, but in the excitement of the night, I wondered if I'd really seen that at all, but now I can't possibly forget!
Thank you, thank you, thank you for posting and sharing.
Jo x
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Post by Incognita on Nov 30, 2009 4:21:39 GMT -5
I give you part of my videos because very long to charge. Qualitée is not very good. It misses only two songs[youtube]I give you part of my videos because very long to charge. Qualitée is not very good. It misses only two songs Hi Aurelia - it won't let me view these. It says the videos are private. btw it was nice to "meet" you through the photos posted here.  |
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Post by aurelia on Nov 30, 2009 12:51:37 GMT -5
excuse me
It is long to charge the continuation this week end…
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Post by Incognita on Nov 30, 2009 13:03:20 GMT -5
Oh lovely, they're playing now. Thanks!
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Post by richina on Nov 30, 2009 14:20:49 GMT -5
I hate to have the dissenting opinion here, but if I must... Just like many others, the concert in Shepherd's Bush in May was the first time I had ever seen him live, so you all know how long that wait was. What I wanted to shout to the audience many times was "SHUT UP!" I didn't wait 33 years to hear the audience sing "Father & Son." Now when I listen to the recording from that night, I am so disappointed that Yusuf's voice is just about drowned out by that of the audience in several songs, not to mention the random "woots and hoots" or whatever the heck they are. I, for one, would like nothing more than to sit back and just listen to the man himself. I don't think he requires much in the way of vocal accompaniment. I understand what you're saying Jane, but I think the concert you were at may have had something to do with it. Shepherd's Bush did seem a little rowdy and uncomfortable with the "standing room only" situation on the floor. I can see how that would have been a bit much! In my defense , however, when I'm at a live show, his music stirs something in me that is very difficult to suppress. The elation I feel hearing, and seeing, him is something hard to describe. The world and years passed just melt away. It is simply a joy that bubbles up into smiles, clapping, and singing along. But then of course, maybe it's just my personality?  If that makes me a bad "show-goer", then I apologize, but I can listen to his music quietly at home. What about the lack of energy Yusuf would receive if everyone just sat and listened?  An artist feeds off the vibes put forth by a live audience and that is something Yusuf said he is looking for. I enjoy watching him when the audience is really into his performance. You can tell he's having a blast. He's come a long way from his semi-sedate Porchester show, and I'm glad to see him loosening up and having fun. Also I believe, like Regine, that when people are singing along, it makes you feel like a family...a cohesive group, brought together by a great man and his timeless music. What it boils down to is that no one is wrong, just different, I guess we have to put up with eachother!  From now on...I will sing very quietly, and keep my woots to myself out of respect. Whew, okay I'm finished and will step down from my little "Cat box"!  |
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Post by nancy on Nov 30, 2009 15:15:07 GMT -5
I hate to have the dissenting opinion here, but if I must... Just like many others, the concert in Shepherd's Bush in May was the first time I had ever seen him live, so you all know how long that wait was. What I wanted to shout to the audience many times was "SHUT UP!" I didn't wait 33 years to hear the audience sing "Father & Son." Now when I listen to the recording from that night, I am so disappointed that Yusuf's voice is just about drowned out by that of the audience in several songs, not to mention the random "woots and hoots" or whatever the heck they are. I, for one, would like nothing more than to sit back and just listen to the man himself. I don't think he requires much in the way of vocal accompaniment. I understand what you're saying Jane, but I think the concert you were at may have had something to do with it. Shepherd's Bush did seem a little rowdy and uncomfortable with the "standing room only" situation on the floor. I can see how that would have been a bit much! In my defense , however, when I'm at a live show, his music stirs something in me that is very difficult to suppress. The elation I feel hearing, and seeing, him is something hard to describe. The world and years passed just melt away. It is simply a joy that bubbles up into smiles, clapping, and singing along. But then of course, maybe it's just my personality? If that makes me a bad "show-goer", then I apologize, but I can listen to his music quietly at home. What about the lack of energy Yusuf would receive if everyone just sat and listened? An artist feeds off the vibes put forth by a live audience and that is something Yusuf said he is looking for. I enjoy watching him when the audience is really into his performance. You can tell he's having a blast. He's come a long way from his semi-sedate Porchester show, and I'm glad to see him loosening up and having fun. Also I believe, like Regine, that when people are singing along, it makes you feel like a family...a cohesive group, brought together by a great man and his timeless music. What it boils down to is that no one is wrong, just different, I guess we have to put up with eachother! From now on...I will sing very quietly, and keep my woots to myself out of respect. Whew, okay I'm finished and will step down from my little "Cat box"! I watched a very old - VERY young Cat video - short hair - little tiny mustache and beard - all dressed in a suit.. He was singing and dancing all over the place. They panned to the audience numerous times - they were all just sitting there - staring. Actually looked like a bunch of mannequins. NO emotion what so ever. It was painful to watch - NOT Cat - but the audience !! So if everyone that attended today - just sat and stared .... that wouldn't be a concert. Not a pop/folk concert - more like a symphony, where you dare not sneeze I can only imagine my emotions if I was in attendance. If he began to sing Oh Very Young ..... I just might just have to let out a "squeal" or a "SOB" !!!  Peace Train certainly doesn't lend itself to just sitting there - at least for me it doesn't. Again - I may just have to "hoot" - and maybe even flash a peace sign or two Has to be a happy medium Peace all - Nancy |
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Post by JaneB on Nov 30, 2009 15:38:31 GMT -5
The debator in me is coming out When you go to see an orchestra, does anyone bring their violin to play along with the band? Does the audience sing along with an opera? Can you imagine going to see a play and having the audience reciting the lines along with the actors? That would certainly make for an interesting performance of "12 Angry Men." When you listen to Majikat or Saturnight, you don't hear the audience drowning out his voice, and I bet none of us would like those recordings if they did, because we don't want to hear the audience, we want to hear him. Maybe certain sings don't lend themselves to sitting still for you, but that doesn't mean that the people around you feel the same way. I am not talking about not showing enthusiasm, but an audience can be enthusiastic without getting in the way of the performance and ruining it for others. If I can only hear the audience and not the man singing, then it has been ruined for me, and many others, I'm sure. |
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Post by richina on Nov 30, 2009 16:05:23 GMT -5
All the recordings from Shepherd's Bush, Dublin, and Birmingham have one thing in common...people singing along to beloved songs, they knew by heart some 30+ years ago. I don't think anyone is singing particularly loud, but when thousands do it, well, it's gonna be kind of noticeable!!  There is only one way to settle this.... "Yusuf, if you ever read what we write...would you answer the question of wheather or not you mind us singing along and what is the proper protocol??" BTW people did sing along on Majicat, as evidenced by the DVD. But since it was being recorded, the microphones picked up what was on stage, not in the audience. I'm sure that if any recent shows have been professionally recorded the "sing alongs" probably don't sound that bad. Hopefully Jane, your next experience will be a little less aggravating....well, until me, you, Nancy, and Helen are there at the same time! |
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Post by JaneB on Nov 30, 2009 19:39:50 GMT -5
Oh Richina, I want to be having this discussion with you over a beer! I know people sang along on the Majikat DVD, but you can't really hear it. We wouldn't like it if all we could hear was the audience, and that is what I am talking about. When I listen to "Father & Son" from Shepherd's Bush, I can barely hear Yusuf. I waited 33 years for that and couldn't hear Yusuf! That is a travesty. All I want is to actually hear the person I am paying dearly to see. See, I can play fair... |
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Post by jonathanjzero on Nov 30, 2009 22:20:54 GMT -5
100% in agreement with you Jane! I know the look on your face alone would be enough to show Yusuf just how appreciative and transfixed you were. Your eyes radiating with wonder... There are ways to show enthusiasm without drowning out the very artist you come to listen to. I've always felt that it was at the height of respect to keep conversation/noise (however it's described) at a minimum - both for the benefit of the artist and all other audience members in attendance. We all know how frustrating it is to go to the pictures where loudmouths are talking or reciting parts of the movie throughout it's duration. I know that's not the intention of true Cat/Yusuf fans, but I so wish it could be the unofficial rule re concert going social etiquette. However, there will always be people who like to sing along and shout and whistle. Maybe the answer would be best solved if the audience could be segmented as in the days of smokers/non-smokers. Feasible, but not likely - I think there are more vocal songsters out there than us quiet folk. As for rigid and staid faces (as with young Cat)? I hardly think they compare to the fans Jane is referring to here. Also, that time was a whole other era of values and many teens looking a bit lost and uncomfortable and not all of them there for Cat specifically. P.S. I've been blown away hearing Yusuf perform more of his Cat catalogue - I sure hope we get a decent DVD out of this lot soon - maybe with optional audio with audience singers intact (for those of you so inclined) Take care all, Jonathan. |
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Post by richina on Dec 1, 2009 2:29:29 GMT -5
Hey Guys, Let me weigh in again, and offer a bit of clarity about what I was inferring in my previous post. First, and foremost, I am all about respect, as I have the utmost for my friends here at Majicat. And to Jane...I wholeheartedly agree about concert/gathering rules of decorum, and how the lack thereof can be most infuriating to those of a slightly less enthusiastic ilk!  As in the case of my singing along (which is the worst I do ), I promise, it is ultimately inaudible or as close to it as I can possibly manage.  The boobs that think they have to show their song lyric prowess by accompaniment at the top of their lungs, should be throttled to a pulp by the nearest item that can be utilized as a weapon! As for the occasional whoop, yeehaw, or "cat call" as it were, well in this particular type of venue, it is to be expected. Said "whoop" should in no way brand the "whooper", or "whoopee", as a Neanderthal or some totally anti-social miscreant!  In other words, I think most people don't intend to be rude. I believe them to be well adjusted members of society, just like yours truly, who simply get lost in the music. The thrill of being at a live gig and seeing someone whose music you have adored for years, decades even, is more emotional than some dare to try to rein in. After saying a reluctant goodbye to a beloved artist, and thinking him gone, only to have him reemerge standing before you singing those sweet ballads of yesteryear....well, it's more than some of us can bear! So to those of you who get upset by people's supposed lack of reverence to your plight, please look around and consider the source. It could be some 18 year old screaming idiot who would prefer spending his Saturday nights in a mosh pit, or some 51 year old woman from Louisiana ,with a cold beer in her hand and a tear in her eye, singing along to the experience of a lifetime. I would never do anything to disrespect Yusuf, his music or the true fans who have come to see him. Peace, love, and all things special, Richina PS I will do my level best to behave from here on out, but I can't make any promises. Whoopee! ;D |
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Post by downunder72 on Dec 1, 2009 9:22:15 GMT -5
I guess it's just a matter of opinion here. I can understand were everyone is coming from, and respect your opinions. I think it's great that you can express your feelings, that's what the board is all about. No harm done, even when you don't agree. What matters to me and what is important is that, the audience is not rude or rowdy, and do not distract the view of the artist performing. Who cares, I just wish I was going to London again!!!!!! ;D You know the best thing that came out of this debate, I give you one guess Jane. I know your thinking what I'm thinking. ;D Good to see you on the board Jonathan!!!! |
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Post by helen on Dec 1, 2009 9:49:24 GMT -5
As Vicki said I also respect everyones opinion. But sorry everyone. Sorry Jane you know I love you But I love singing and if possible dancing at concerts when I am enoying the artist, even at my age. The thing is most artist encourage fans to sing look at Robbie Williams? he's favorite line is "Come on, Come on" In Birmingham Yusuf did encourage us fans to sing and clap with him see my Wild World video (he must of heard me and Meg singing at Shepherds bush? and wanted more) ;D  Must admit there was not a lot of singing going on in Birmingham. I was singing to myself but not very loud. When I video Yusuf or any other artist I go to see in concert, I purely do it for me and my friends to enjoy. A lot of people have enjoyed my video's even the ones with me and Meg singing. When they showed some of Island 50 on TV, they cut out any singing from the fans. So if they ever make a DVD they will cut out the fans (me) singing. I recently was dancing and singing to Tom Jones at the 02 See you all soon. |
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Post by JaneB on Dec 1, 2009 11:05:06 GMT -5
I love you all, too! All I want to do is hear who I go to see - that's it. Is that really asking too much? I am not asking anyone not to sing and dance or have a good time unless it prevents me from hearing what I paid for. When I listen to the videos from Dublin or Birmingham, I can hear Yusuf, so it is fine. When I listen to Father & Son from Shepherd's Bush, I cannot hear Yusuf. Why would I want to hear the audience sing instead of him? I don't - I want to hear him. I may be the most vocal (been that way since the day I was born), but you can see on this thread that I am not the only one who feels the way I do, so surely there will be others at Liverpool and RAH that want to be able to hear their Yusuf in all his glory. All I ask is let us hear him. Now, let's all go have a beer, ok? And Vicki, you know seeing Jonathan on here made me smile. It always does! ;D |
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Post by richina on Dec 1, 2009 11:51:56 GMT -5
Helen...I think you and I better sit together. Hopefully we won't bump into each other too much while we're dancing and singing! And Jane, we can have a beer after the show to discuss what I missed while I was...well, dancing and singing with Helen. Either way, we all agree on one thing...we are all the same in our hearts when it comes to Yusuf and his music! I have a feeling though, that the "Longer Boats" will be here for some of us sooner than it will for others!! ;D This makes me even crazier to want to be there! Everyone have fun in Liverpool, and don't sing along to loud...Jane may have slipped in unnoticed! Oh, and Helen, I LOVE TOM JONES (and so does my Mom) I've seen him several times in the US and he always does a great show. My Mom got a kiss from him once when we had front row/center seats...I thought I'd never scrape her off the ceiling! |
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Post by aurelia on Dec 1, 2009 11:55:04 GMT -5
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Post by richina on Dec 1, 2009 12:04:20 GMT -5
Thanks for the vids Aurelia...I love how Yusuf's voice mixes with the other singers and yet so easily stands alone!!
Love it!
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Post by aurelia on Dec 1, 2009 12:06:49 GMT -5
Wait I still have it of it is just a little long lol
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Post by JaneB on Dec 1, 2009 12:25:29 GMT -5
And to show that I really am a nice person, I'll even buy the beer!
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Post by aurelia on Dec 1, 2009 13:07:13 GMT -5
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Post by helen on Dec 1, 2009 13:12:56 GMT -5
And to show that I really am a nice person, I'll even buy the beer! Oh Jane I defiantly know your a nice person having met with you twice and again soon... Have you seen the video Wild World? when Yusuf wants us to sing and clap? |
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Post by richina on Dec 1, 2009 15:03:21 GMT -5
Set up a round on me, girls!! ;D And remember...if it starts to rain, I'm gonna cover my drink instead of my head!! ;D Hey, at least I've got my priorities straight! My hair will dry, what's the point of messing up a perfectly good drink?? hee-hee Oh, how I wish I could meet you guys!! We would have such a good time!! I guess I can only..."Dream On"! But one day...POW--the stars will all align! |
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Post by bobk on Dec 1, 2009 15:30:11 GMT -5
Jane, that's gonna be a hard thing for people not to sing along. It's funny, I don't want people screaming "Allah Akbar" and you don't want people singing...what buzzkills we must sound like! Every concert I go to I sing (and dance if possible). I am a veteran of Grateful Dead shows and that was a given. I understand this is more mellow music, so I am fully prepared not to get up and dance. As for the words, you may have to duct tape my mouth because I don't know if I can be mute! No worries, it will all be good |
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tnx Helen 
If that makes me a bad "show-goer", then I apologize, but I can listen to his music quietly at home. What about the lack of energy Yusuf would receive if everyone just sat and listened? 
An artist feeds off the vibes put forth by a live audience and that is something Yusuf said he is looking for. I enjoy watching him when the audience is really into his performance. You can tell he's having a blast. He's come a long way from his semi-sedate Porchester show, and I'm glad to see him loosening up and having fun. Also I believe, like Regine, that when people are singing along, it makes you feel like a family...a cohesive group, brought together by a great man and his timeless music. What it boils down to is that no one is wrong, just different, I guess we have to put up with eachother! 
From now on...I will sing very quietly, and keep my woots to myself out of respect. 
As in the case of my singing along (which is the worst I do 
The boobs that think they have to show their song lyric prowess by accompaniment at the top of their lungs, should be throttled to a pulp by the nearest item that can be utilized as a weapon! As for the occasional whoop, yeehaw, or "cat call" as it were, well in this particular type of venue, it is to be expected. Said "whoop" should in no way brand the "whooper", or "whoopee", as a Neanderthal or some totally anti-social miscreant! 
