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Post by bernadette on Oct 28, 2006 22:57:10 GMT -5
No, I wonder about that too. I still think it is a stage manager talking to him and I think possibly it may have been a reminder to introduce the band. I practically have the DVD memorized. LOL
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Post by krispypink on Oct 28, 2006 23:00:18 GMT -5
lol I've watched it a dozen times, and I continue to find new things that I wonder about!
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Post by 1976 on Oct 29, 2006 0:37:18 GMT -5
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Post by michaelb on Oct 29, 2006 2:02:30 GMT -5
ok, thanks all, although i'm sure about what i'm sure of  I agree Ruins It is extemly possible that he was stoned and just forgot. He does look stoned. Peace and Love hippies |
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Post by krispypink on Oct 29, 2006 3:41:22 GMT -5
Really? I don't think he looked stoned..
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Post by michaelb on Oct 29, 2006 5:19:29 GMT -5
Hey Kris Have you ever had a few cones and gone on stage?  |
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Post by krispypink on Oct 29, 2006 5:43:45 GMT -5
No, I can't say I have...I have to disagree. People under the influence of drugs can hardly drive, let alone perform a 2hr concert.  |
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Post by PixieDust on Oct 29, 2006 6:19:52 GMT -5
No, I can't say I have...I have to disagree. People under the influence of drugs can hardly drive, let alone perform a 2hr concert. Many (not all) Performers do it all the time. They did then and they do now. |
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Post by SuzieQ on Oct 29, 2006 8:07:33 GMT -5
I have a question about another part of the concert...just before he sings "Two Fine People" you can hear someone in the background saying something to Cat and he responds with, "I know". Anyone know what this was about? It frustrates me when you can't hear! Thanks Kris, I have tried sooo many times to hear what was said then, just can't make it out. I think it was about the next song, probably with Alun. Like after Sad Lisa, as he walks from the piano, he says to Alun "Two Fine People?," and then nods. But I don't think we will ever know for sure. It's bugged me for ages! lol |
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Post by SuzieQ on Oct 29, 2006 8:14:43 GMT -5
He was high, on O X Y G E N! "THAT'S ALL I TAKE NOWADAYS"[/i]
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Post by Ruins on Oct 29, 2006 8:28:19 GMT -5
ok, thanks all, although i'm sure about what i'm sure of I agree Ruins It is extemly possible that he was stoned and just forgot. He does look stoned. Peace and Love hippies finally, a reasonable fan ;D |
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Post by bernadette on Oct 29, 2006 11:43:20 GMT -5
What proof does anyone have that he WAS stoned. Were you there with him? These are all speculations and personal opinions. No one knows for sure and no one will ever know for sure, I would assume. I find picking him apart and scrutinizing his every move to be insulting to him and offensive. I personally love the Majikat DVD and find nothing wrong with any part of his performance. It was live and little mishaps were bound to happen which I feel adds to the nuance of the concert. My opinion, only. Have a great Sunday, all.
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Post by michaelb on Oct 29, 2006 17:38:39 GMT -5
possibly oxygen might be a euphemism for pot Of course I don't have any proof, just speculation. |
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Post by bernadette on Oct 29, 2006 17:43:07 GMT -5
Ya think? LOL
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Post by theloner on Nov 15, 2006 0:12:42 GMT -5
Well let's see, it was 1976...he was a "Rock Star" and he was wealthy...It is quiite possible he'd had a hit of something....Stoned would be the slang term...
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Post by Jazz_ear_oh on Nov 16, 2006 17:50:06 GMT -5
I found him to be over acting his star role on that video.
He seemed to be on acid by the way he acted.
I wish he would have been more natural, more himself... but he was too busy putting out this "look at me! I'm so cool! I'm so sexy!" pose.
I bet he feels a little embarrassed when he sees that old video, he DOES look a bit silly.
I always admired his music and his image, but at this point in his life, I think he was too overindulged.
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Post by Hope on Nov 18, 2006 13:53:40 GMT -5
He seemed fine to me, in good spirits. Maybe he had something else on his mind at the moment that distracted him. It just doesn't seem like someone on the verge of becoming a Muslim would be getting stoned. It doesn't coincide.  |
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Post by Huru on Nov 18, 2006 14:25:57 GMT -5
He seemed fine to me, in good spirits. Maybe he had something else on his mind at the moment that distracted him. It just doesn't seem like someone on the verge of becoming a Muslim would be getting stoned. It doesn't coincide. |
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Post by Turan on Nov 18, 2006 16:22:21 GMT -5
Some where or other there is an article, here or in the old CScom archives, about this. Yusuf was traveling at that time with an oxygen tank and mask and was, indeed, taking 'hits' before he preformed. The article quotes Alun joking about going through customs with this paraphinaelia.
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Post by Lucy13 on Nov 18, 2006 21:58:46 GMT -5
I think he really was taking oxygen. He was always one to take weird and unusual avante-garde paths. Wasn't he really health-minded at that time? Like into yoga?
The way he puts his hand to his face when he realizes he's just introduced the audience twice just looks cute, silly and shy to me. Not stoned. (It reminds me of that clip where he mispronounces "relevant" (I think that was the word). He just about blushes up the whole camera. Adorable!)
I think he was high on his success, personally. Along with that high-horse attitude came the flip side, exemplified by such acts as calling that person (stage hand?) a stupid idiot. He was just high on life in that concert, I think. High on himself. Which made him a bit "lippy" at times.
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Post by Vivian on Nov 18, 2006 22:04:53 GMT -5
I think he really was taking oxygen. He was always one to take weird and unusual avante-garde paths. Wasn't he really health-minded at that time? Like into yoga? The way he puts his hand to his face when he realizes he's just introduced the audience twice just looks cute, silly and shy to me. Not stoned. (It reminds me of that clip where he mispronounces "relevant" (I think that was the word). He just about blushes up the whole camera. Adorable!) I think he was high on his success, personally. Along with that high-horse attitude came the flip side, exemplified by such acts as calling that person (stage hand?) a stupid idiot. He was just high on life in that concert, I think. High on himself. Which made him a bit "lippy" at times. Also kind of like forgetting the words to Bitterblue. He blushed his way through that one as well. As far as his "lippy" comments during majicat, well I still think it coincides with his brush with death at Malibu Beach. That concert was likely very shortly after, he had just made his promise to God, and had no idea how he would fulfill that promise. Peace,Vivian |
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Post by Huru on Nov 19, 2006 0:50:29 GMT -5
"I think he really was taking oxygen. He was always one to take weird and unusual avante-garde paths. Wasn't he really health-minded at that time? Like into yoga?"
Plus anyone who has had lung problems like he did can certainly use those good hits of oxygen. I had a lot of lung trouble at one time and those benefits are priceless, in addition to the energy it gives you.
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Post by 1976 on Nov 19, 2006 22:25:15 GMT -5
"Plus anyone who has had lung problems like he did can certainly use those good hits of oxygen."
good point.
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Post by waterside on Nov 20, 2006 14:43:26 GMT -5
Some where or other there is an article, here or in the old CScom archives, about this. Yusuf was traveling at that time with an oxygen tank and mask and was, indeed, taking 'hits' before he preformed. The article quotes Alun joking about going through customs with this paraphinaelia. I remember reading about the oxygen tank a long time ago, also. It could have been in the David Evans book. I know Alun was the one telling about Cat traveling with an oxygen tank. Cat was always way ahead of the times - now there are oxygen bars. About introducing the band twice - I think he did it the second time just to be silly cause he did kind of mess up the first time by telling the audience that that was enough applause because the band would get a big head, or something like that. I can't remember exactly how it went. I think he may have felt bad that he said that. Anyway, I don't think he seemed under the influence of drugs during the concert. I believe him when he said: "All I take is OX-E-GEN now!" I think basically he has always been a nice person who is kind of shy in certain situations. |
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Post by Starlight on Dec 6, 2006 4:56:04 GMT -5
Oxygen was a fad that was taking off in the mid 70's, so when he spoke of getting high on oxygen, that is what he meant. There were oxygen bars then. It was a way of clearing your mind. As for the "Have I introduced you to the band?", comment, I place it right along with the"I've never seen an audience before", comment, just a little joking remark made to the audience to establish a rapport. He was very focused and very deliberate ( look at the way he kept playing the guitar and singing without blinking an eye, when the guitar string broke during one of his songs) . The only thing that kept him from being a complete pro was the temper outburst over the microphone being raised, but he calmed down quickly and made a couple of joking remarks about that (" you might see my legs"). Anyway, No, He Wasn't under the influence of any drugs.
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Post by Huru on Dec 6, 2006 11:09:32 GMT -5
ITA. He doesn't look under the influence in that clip. Back then, let's just say... the substance was a lot different and people didn't care whether they appeared influenced in public or not. IMO he was definitely not. As for musicians playing concerts while under the influence, I often wondered how they could do those high-powered performances while under the influence. (Not talking about the drugs of today. Things were a lot different back then.) Some of them could accomplish that and some couldn't. After a Bonnie Raitt concert in 1977 she exclaimed now I'm gonna go backstage and get f'ed up (something she no longer does and hasn't for a very long time). One time at a George Thorogood concert, the Allman Brothers opened for him and if you weren't watching closely you missed Gregg Allman slumping onto the keyboard, being removed quickly and later brought back, the whole thing happened seamlessly  Maybe occasionally the former Cat might have done a concert under the influence, but it certainly wouldn't have been to the extent that many musicians did and still do. |
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Post by Chris on Dec 6, 2006 23:22:14 GMT -5
I really doubt he was under the influence either. I remember reading an interview once where he said that when he was up on stage, he really didn't know how to communicate with the audience. So he just rambles on. Sometimes saying odd things. Then when he hears it played back, he wondered why the heck he said certain things. I'm sure we all do the same thing.
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Post by thewind on Dec 18, 2006 20:22:44 GMT -5
Did you say CLAWS... How many claws does he have you ask??? Well how many does a Cat usually have...
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Post by rickyjb on Dec 25, 2006 14:22:55 GMT -5
I was at the Massey Hall concert in Toronto,camped out in front of Ryerson Unniv for the night to get tickets the next day.The concert was amazing,even though the audio was not that good.You could tell he was shy,and was very much against the "establishment".There were about a half dozen photographers gathered at the edge of the stage,and after Cat had made his amazing entrance onto the stage he walked very casually over to them.He commented on the cameras and that they were probally very expensive,he paused for a second or so and then said,"well I really do not give a F*&%k and unless you stop taking pictures and sit down,there will be no concert",well the crowd went nuts with cheering,and the pics and flashes ended,and the best 2 hours of my life began!
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Post by 1976 on Dec 25, 2006 15:55:02 GMT -5
I was at the Massey Hall concert in Toronto,camped out in front of Ryerson Unniv for the night to get tickets the next day.The concert was amazing,even though the audio was not that good.You could tell he was shy,and was very much against the "establishment".There were about a half dozen photographers gathered at the edge of the stage,and after Cat had made his amazing entrance onto the stage he walked very casually over to them.He commented on the cameras and that they were probally very expensive,he paused for a second or so and then said,"well I really do not give a F*&%k and unless you stop taking pictures and sit down,there will be no concert",well the crowd went nuts with cheering,and the pics and flashes ended,and the best 2 hours of my life began! Great anecdote rickyjb; thanks for sharing, and welcome to Majicat. |
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Maybe occasionally the former Cat might have done a concert under the influence, but it certainly wouldn't have been to the extent that many musicians did and still do.