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Post by sabina on Mar 6, 2011 15:22:47 GMT -5
:)Hi,This thread is for those that wonder why...........
and to now..........what a journey,what a path.what a Man!!!!!!!
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Post by aurarisma on Mar 6, 2011 19:35:25 GMT -5
I dont want to get this thread tooo far in a tizzy but I will leave something here to correct Yusuf... on the 3rd video .. Priest were always allowed to marry they were no different than anyone else .. Gregory St. Gregory changed all that by creating a Gregorian Calendar where we all celebrate things so differently now for there are 2 calendars now .. and He made priests to no longer be allowed to marry inthe Catholic churches .. for prior to that they could.. the Eastern Christian faith (greekorthodoxy) they can marry that was the first true christian faith and in 1054 the schism happened and catholicism was created and priests in time were no longer able to marry ... just a fact... in history ... ok Im off this topic!!!! eeeeek~ on a visual note... I like the Yusufs hair inthese vids....  |
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Post by sabina on Mar 7, 2011 1:35:29 GMT -5
I dont want to get this thread tooo far in a tizzy but I will leave something here to correct Yusuf... on the 3rd video .. Priest were always allowed to marry they were no different than anyone else .. Gregory St. Gregory changed all that by creating a Gregorian Calendar where we all celebrate things so differently now for there are 2 calendars now .. and He made priests to no longer be allowed to marry inthe Catholic churches .. for prior to that they could.. the Eastern Christian faith (greekorthodoxy) they can marry that was the first true christian faith and in 1054 the schism happened and catholicism was created and priests in time were no longer able to marry ... just a fact... in history ... ok Im off this topic!!!! eeeeek~ on a visual note... I like the Yusufs hair inthese vids.... :)Hi,thankx for that....A Roman Catholic upbringing does lead us to believe that in order to be a 'good' priest or 'nun' a person has to be married to God...like back in the day folk would say that the best teachers in school were those unattached ladies with no children to hamper them in their chosen dedicated vocation!! Interesting potential for debate. ;D S'OK I know pm only.....  |
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Post by aurarisma on Mar 7, 2011 1:36:50 GMT -5
tooo bad things changed for those priests that they cant get married... pretty sad ..  xo |
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Post by peacock on Mar 7, 2011 2:03:51 GMT -5
Just one reason I attend an Episcopal (Anglican) church. Our pastors are family guys.
I love discussing religion -- I am very accepting, love learning about different religions. But just as with politics, what I will argue about are facts. Believe what you will, but get the facts straight. If you have all the information and still choose something different than what I choose, then that's just fine and you've got my total respect. In fact maybe I need to get some facts straight myself. Lord knows I try, but it's so complicated.
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Post by peritura on Mar 7, 2011 13:34:16 GMT -5
I think the fundemental error Yusuf makes in that comment is the assumption that to be a good Christian you have got to be a priest. There are many other and equal vocations for Christians. I think this assumption echoes with his need to always reach the 'pinnacle'in all he does. I don't think being a priest is the pinnacle for a Chrisitian.
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Post by aurarisma on Mar 7, 2011 14:21:10 GMT -5
I believe we all have a ministry of sorts... at the end of the day we assess it and hopefully it was a generously loving day ... for others and well as for us ..open to receiving and open to giving ... thats how I perceive it ... dont want to overstep on this thread  |
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Post by peacock on Mar 7, 2011 14:41:48 GMT -5
I think the fundemental error Yusuf makes in that comment is the assumption that to be a good Christian you have got to be a priest. There are many other and equal vocations for Christians. I think this assumption echoes with his need to always reach the 'pinnacle'in all he does. I don't think being a priest is the pinnacle for a Chrisitian. Yes -- one of the Christian tenets is "the last shall be first." I do keep shaking my head at this man - I love him to bits, but he's always going to struggle with humility, isn't he? LOL |
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Post by peacock on Mar 7, 2011 14:43:28 GMT -5
BTW -- is it okay to discuss religion as long as we try very hard to keep away from a "my team's better than your team" angle? Thanks.
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Post by JaneB on Mar 7, 2011 14:53:02 GMT -5
Maybe after last week we should just stay away from the subject and not even ask Christine to have to make that decision. I think she deserves a break.
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Post by peacock on Mar 7, 2011 14:58:20 GMT -5
Probably so. Though I do think that we can do it kindly . . . maybe not now. Goodness, I'm such a troublemaker  |
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Post by sabina on Mar 7, 2011 15:24:41 GMT -5
Probably so. Though I do think that we can do it kindly . . . maybe not now. Goodness, I'm such a troublemaker :)Not at all!........ ;D |
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Post by peacock on Mar 8, 2011 0:09:23 GMT -5
Just one reason I attend an Episcopal (Anglican) church. Our pastors are family guys. I love discussing religion -- I am very accepting, love learning about different religions. But just as with politics, what I will argue about are facts. Believe what you will, but get the facts straight. If you have all the information and still choose something different than what I choose, then that's just fine and you've got my total respect. In fact maybe I need to get some facts straight myself. Lord knows I try, but it's so complicated. A very wise Majicatter has called me out on the above statement, pointing out that it doesn't really say what she hoped I meant, so in the interest of kindness and peacemaking I wanted to clarify a little bit. She pointed out that I claim to be accepting, but then I set limits on how I think people should come by their faith, and I want to apologize for that. There's certainly room for blind faith in the world, and if you're looking for absolute proof of anything in the spiritual realm you're probably not going to find it. All I meant, really, was that I hate the spread of misinformation. And I think that people often have mistaken beliefs about this group or that group - whether it's religious, ethnic, or political. What's true for some may not be true for all. What's practiced may not be the official doctrine. And I will leave it there! |
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Post by sabina on Mar 8, 2011 0:35:59 GMT -5
Just one reason I attend an Episcopal (Anglican) church. Our pastors are family guys. I love discussing religion -- I am very accepting, love learning about different religions. But just as with politics, what I will argue about are facts. Believe what you will, but get the facts straight. If you have all the information and still choose something different than what I choose, then that's just fine and you've got my total respect. In fact maybe I need to get some facts straight myself. Lord knows I try, but it's so complicated. A very wise Majicatter has called me out on the above statement, pointing out that it doesn't really say what she hoped I meant, so in the interest of kindness and peacemaking I wanted to clarify a little bit. She pointed out that I claim to be accepting, but then I set limits on how I think people should come by their faith, and I want to apologize for that. There's certainly room for blind faith in the world, and if you're looking for absolute proof of anything in the spiritual realm you're probably not going to find it. All I meant, really, was that I hate the spread of misinformation. And I think that people often have mistaken beliefs about this group or that group - whether it's religious, ethnic, or political. What's true for some may not be true for all. What's practiced may not be the official doctrine. And I will leave it there! :)Among the Majicatters I consider to be wise ,you are one of them peacock ....I also aspire to be unafraid to be honest like you..........so I doff my cap to you ...in lieu of a pash  . lol ;D |
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Post by aurarisma on Mar 8, 2011 0:44:47 GMT -5
anybody have any chocolate they can share right about now  ?? oooxxoxox |
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Post by sabina on Mar 8, 2011 1:23:51 GMT -5
anybody have any chocolate they can share right about now ?? oooxxoxox :)Filled with camomile(for you aurarisma,) and whatever peacock fancies...coming right up...................... |
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Post by JaneB on Mar 8, 2011 11:32:01 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarification, peacock. No need to apologize, though. I think we all need to clarify what we mean from time to time. I can't tell you how long a draft of a work email sits open before I send it. My words always sound perfect in MY head because they were meant to go together, but those same words can sound downright strange to someone else. It's just the way the written word works and why some people make big money as editors!
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Post by sabina on Mar 8, 2011 14:08:22 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarification, peacock. No need to apologize, though. I think we all need to clarify what we mean from time to time. I can't tell you how long a draft of a work email sits open before I send it. My words always sound perfect in MY head because they were meant to go together, but those same words can sound downright strange to someone else. It's just the way the written word works and why some people make big money as editors! :)Yes you're quite right @janeb ..unfortunately I end up being a tad overexcited and post before ruminating enough  ...I'm constantly deleting and modyfying.  ..and still sometimes it's not right....Yes sometimes it's good to be asked to clarify...rather that ,than have a misunderstanding!!...yep another wise one.... |
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Post by sabina on Mar 9, 2011 7:13:36 GMT -5
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Post by aurarisma on Mar 9, 2011 14:01:40 GMT -5
xo Attachments:
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Post by sabina on Mar 9, 2011 16:24:51 GMT -5
xo[/quote ..such gentle beauty too.......................ho hum x ..thought this thread was safe.......... ....you going to hijack every thread with a pic?......think you'll wear me down?.........girls,girls...I'm made of sterner stuff!!!? ::)anyway in response to sharp barbs about flippancy....I believe that God has a devine sense of humour too.............just need to look around at His creation!!! x |
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Post by aurarisma on Mar 10, 2011 17:35:11 GMT -5
lol lol <<<<< theres a cute photo for you! |
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Post by sabina on Mar 14, 2011 1:36:09 GMT -5
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Post by aurarisma on Mar 14, 2011 12:48:14 GMT -5
peacock .. thats one thing we all always struggle with Humility, and Patience .. One can never have enough of that ...
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Post by sabina on Mar 15, 2011 7:23:19 GMT -5
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Post by aurarisma on Mar 15, 2011 11:03:44 GMT -5
yes...the virtues alone a, the Golden Rule , all push us toward our Destiny .. its really quite simple ... and our Conscience tell us ...
nothing new here in this article... just sometimes its forgotten to put in play all over the world ..
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Post by sabina on Mar 15, 2011 11:54:54 GMT -5
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Post by aurarisma on Mar 15, 2011 12:21:41 GMT -5
beautiful journey thus far xo
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Post by sabina on Mar 16, 2011 5:50:28 GMT -5
:)mmm hmmmm...so far.........
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Post by sabina on Mar 28, 2011 4:55:23 GMT -5
:)Someone asked and so I shall reply..never one to dodge an honest question... ;D...a site I find useful at the moment...... This web site is for people of various faiths who seek to understand Islam and Muslims........ www.islamreligion.com/ |
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...I'm constantly deleting and modyfying. 
..and still sometimes it's not right....Yes sometimes it's good to be asked to clarify...rather that ,than have a misunderstanding!!...yep another wise one.... 