Chris
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Post by Chris on Mar 18, 2006 13:52:53 GMT -5
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Post by grizz on Mar 18, 2006 14:54:46 GMT -5
Great picture! He looks so peaceful. Thanks Sue and Christine. |
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Post by Vivian on Mar 18, 2006 16:07:17 GMT -5
Yusuf looks great, but the link doesn't work. Who is the gentleman pictured with Yusuf?
Peace,Vivian
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Post by Vivian on Mar 18, 2006 16:13:25 GMT -5
Never mind. I typed the address into my browser and it worked. Here's the article.
DURING his charm offensive in London, Australia's leading Muslim cleric Sheik Taj Aldin Alhilali had a close encounter with Yusuf Islam, the man formerly known as Cat Stevens.
Before giving a rare public lecture at a conference in London of the World Islamic Call Society on Friday, Islam greeted Sheik Alhilali warmly, taking him by both hands.
A day earlier, Sheik Alhilali failed in his bid to meet Prince Charles, to whom he hoped to appeal personally about healing the tensions between Muslims and non-Muslims.
The Prince, along with Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, British Home Secretary Charles Clarke and Princess Badiya El Hassan of Jordan, gathered at the University of London for a memorial in honour of Sheik Zaki Badawi, who died in January.
Sheik Badawi, a widely loved voice of moderate Islam, was also a confidant and adviser to Prince Charles, and a uniting force in Britain after last year's railway bombings.
While Sheik Alhilali failed to meet Prince Charles, who was hurried out of the function to another engagement, he told The Sun-Herald he hoped for another opportunity to meet him over the weekend.
Sheik Alhilali said that Australia was less afflicted than Britain by smouldering religious tension among disaffected young Muslim men.
"Australia is a more multicultural society, a land of love, of peace and unity," he said.
But his criticism of US foreign policy, made in a written statement, extended to the Australian and British governments. "Blair and Howard are the students in Bush's school," he said.
Peace,Vivian
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Post by catnip on Mar 19, 2006 15:32:34 GMT -5
Thanks, Sue and Christine. Very nice photo. I thought exactly the same thing, Bern, when I saw this photo, that Yusuf looked so peaceful.
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Post by tomh on Mar 20, 2006 14:24:12 GMT -5
Yusuf looks great, but the link doesn't work. Who is the gentleman pictured with Yusuf? Peace,Vivian Who is that guy in the black suit next to Yusuf |
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Post by grizz on Mar 20, 2006 16:25:37 GMT -5
Never mind. I typed the address into my browser and it worked. Here's the article. DURING his charm offensive in London, Australia's leading Muslim cleric Sheik Taj Aldin Alhilali had a close encounter with Yusuf Islam, the man formerly known as Cat Stevens. Before giving a rare public lecture at a conference in London of the World Islamic Call Society on Friday, Islam greeted Sheik Alhilali warmly, taking him by both hands. A day earlier, Sheik Alhilali failed in his bid to meet Prince Charles, to whom he hoped to appeal personally about healing the tensions between Muslims and non-Muslims. The Prince, along with Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, British Home Secretary Charles Clarke and Princess Badiya El Hassan of Jordan, gathered at the University of London for a memorial in honour of Sheik Zaki Badawi, who died in January. Sheik Badawi, a widely loved voice of moderate Islam, was also a confidant and adviser to Prince Charles, and a uniting force in Britain after last year's railway bombings. While Sheik Alhilali failed to meet Prince Charles, who was hurried out of the function to another engagement, he told The Sun-Herald he hoped for another opportunity to meet him over the weekend. Sheik Alhilali said that Australia was less afflicted than Britain by smouldering religious tension among disaffected young Muslim men. "Australia is a more multicultural society, a land of love, of peace and unity," he said. But his criticism of US foreign policy, made in a written statement, extended to the Australian and British governments. "Blair and Howard are the students in Bush's school," he said. Peace,Vivian Thanks for the article, Vivian. Nice of you to post it here.  |
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Post by Bamboozle on Mar 22, 2006 11:00:48 GMT -5
I think Yusuf looks tired
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Post by nefertiti on Mar 22, 2006 11:02:32 GMT -5
I was thinking the same. I thing the traveling has really done him in  |
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Chris
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Post by Chris on Mar 22, 2006 12:32:10 GMT -5
I have to agree with this.
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Post by flemmishfan on Mar 22, 2006 13:10:49 GMT -5
I hope he is not to pessimestic about this world and that he will stay believing in a better one. There so much for him to do on his peacetrain Regine
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Post by johannah on Mar 22, 2006 13:36:02 GMT -5
Yeah tired and getting older just like me I'll survive if he has! |
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Post by flemmishfan on Mar 22, 2006 13:42:57 GMT -5
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Post by flemmishfan on Mar 22, 2006 13:58:46 GMT -5
THERE I SEE HE RECENTLY MOVED TO DUBAI .should that be true Regine
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Post by Girlhowdy233 on Apr 1, 2006 20:22:55 GMT -5
I think Yusuf looks tired :-/I too think Yusuf looks quite tired in this photo. You just don't see that usual sparkle in those big, brown eyes. Shirley |
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Post by kareema113 on Apr 18, 2006 14:08:56 GMT -5
I had a look at this article and a couple of things seem rather interesting to me...
"Yusuf Islam was great, and he exceeded my expectations. He didn't perform live, but rather showed videos of himself performing his new songs. I expected traditional Islamic nasheeds (songs), as I have seen him do before, but his new stuff makes no direct references to Islam, but rather appeals to a Creator from an ecumenical perspective (it's very similar to his old stuff in mood). He appeared without Islamic garb, sported what looked to be a pretty fine Taylor acoustic, and scarcely mentioned Islam in the videos. He has a new album in the works and it will be tailored to a general audience, with the proceeds going to charity.
He said that it is incumbent upon us to use our talents to benefit others, especially the needy and afflicted. He seems totally on board vis-à-vis the music issue, in other words, expect to hear him again soon." [/i]
What I get out of this is that Br Yusuf is 'shopping' the Islamic (as opposed to the mainstream) community with the new non-Islamically-traditional stuff and that the new album is going to be a 'cross-over' to mainstream, a la' Sandi Patty, etc... And 'appealing to the Creator from an ecumenical perspective'[/i] means to me that the content is going to be long on material similar to 'On the Road to Find Out', 'Miles from Nowhere', etc... but since there is dating or premarital sex is forbidden in Islam, there will be few 'relationship' songs, unless the relationship is within the marital or inter-familial context (Father and Son, for example).
Since Br Yusuf was already censured by the Islamic community for non-Islamic content when 'Back to Earth' was released... songs like 'Bad Brakes', 'Randy', 'Just Another Night' do not reflect Islamic values... I don't think this type of song will make the cut again. (He made the eager new convert mistake of including Arabic calligraphy referrring to Allah on the cover art, which is what prompted the criticism.)
"The second thing that happened was that Yusuf Qaradawi, our local Wahabbi-Lite Al-Jazeera television cleric walked out during the Yusuf Islam videos. This may mean nothing, as it could have happened for a number of reasons, but it's interesting. Qaradawi had something to do with Yusuf Islam's early instruction in Islam, and was seated next to him."[/i]
I beg to differ with the categorization of Yusuf al-Qaradawi as 'Wahabbi-Lite' ('Wahhabism' is an ultra-conservative form of Islam enforced by the al Saud regime in Saudi Arabia, ie women can't drive, must be accompanied by a male relative in public and must cover their faces, etc. Incidentally the al Saud royals themselves do not abide by the tenets of Wahhabism.)
I attend a mosque that is categorized as 'liberal' by the rest of the more traditional mosques in our area. (There are converts and women on our governing board.) Our 30 yr old 'modern imam', who relies on his BlackBerry to inform him of the 5 daily prayer times, considers al-Qaradawi's book 'The Permitted and Forbidden in Islam' to be an important work of scholarship. In fact, I have heard more conservative Muslims refer to al-Qaradawi's book as 'The Permitted and Permitted in Islam' (meaning that according to al-Qaradawi, there is no 'Forbidden'. More than once have I seen Br Yusuf seated next to Shaykh al-Qaradawi and chatting pleasantly with him at events on ArabTV.
I wish I were the fly on the wall as to what prompted Shaykh al-Qaradawi to 'walk out' during Br Yusuf's videos. The author of the article seems to imply that they were too 'liberal' for him to see...
"Hamza Yusuf stole the show both nights. He was dynamic, funny, and brutal... and the audience ate it up. While Yusuf Islam was gently coaxing us regarding the cartoon issue, Hamza went right for the throat... "Why do these stereotypes exist in the first place? What did we do to create them, and what are some doing now to reinforce them?". Then most importantly, "What do we do now to break them, once and for all?" He went through a laundry list of criticisms of modern Islamic culture, from violence and anger to basic adab (courtesy) to following traffic rules and kindness to animals. He couched the criticism with plenty of humor, but it was still pretty raw...and the audience (half were Qatari) loved it.[/i]
Shaykh Hamza Yusuf is a white American convert who is based in the San Francisco Bay Area. In fact, he does the English translation portion of the Holy Qur'an recitation on Prayers of the Last Prophet. He is said to speak Arabic better than Arabs. Br Yusuf, by his own admission, does not speak Arabic to any great extent. Shaykh Hamza Yusuf is very fervent and 'tells it like it is'. And this approach, not Br Yusuf's 'gentleness' is what the audience ate up... and Qatar is predominantly Shi'a in population to boot.
It looks like Br Yusuf may be walking an interesting tightrope both with his home Islamic community and the mainstream fan base, who valiantly hopes that he has at last come to his senses again after 25 years.
How this will play out in the next year or so is anybody's guess. As we say in Islam, 'only Allah knows'.
salams,
kareema
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Post by flemmishfan on Apr 19, 2006 3:07:45 GMT -5
That's the way now these days ,you must be dynamic,funny and brutal and the public liked it but at last Yusuf is older ,wise and calm.You can reach more being this way i think at last.If people listen to the words of his new songs they will now it's alright.Yusuf nows that peace is the answer in this turbulent world.Regine
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Post by kareema113 on Apr 19, 2006 15:53:31 GMT -5
That's the way now these days ,you must be dynamic,funny and brutal and the public liked it but at last Yusuf is older ,wise and calm.You can reach more being this way i think at last.If people listen to the words of his new songs they will now it's alright.Yusuf nows that peace is the answer in this turbulent world.Regine I quite agree with you. It's the Father and Son dilemma like deja' vu... all over again. In the 70s, we were the 'Son's' generation... and the theme of the day was Give Peace a Chance and we were going to be the ones who did. Now we are of the 'Father's' generation... Although the events of the 2 different decades are similar... repressive government, an unnecessary war, awareness that the Earth is not unexhaustible... it remains to be seen if today's world will listen to a voice not heard for so many years. On the one hand I am encouraged by the phenomenon of the current artist Matisyahu, who became a Hasidic Jew and still charts... On the other hand is Rick Nelson's Garden Party experience in the 70s. Formerly a squeaky clean-cut 50s artist known as Ricky Nelson, he agreed to play a Rock&Roll Revival concert at Madison Square Garden in the early 70s. This time, however, he sported long hair, a fringed suede jacket and the Stone Canyon Band. He was boo'ed off the stage and subsequently commemorated the experience with this song... I went to a garden party to reminisce with my old friends,
A chance to share old memories and play our songs again...
When I got to the garden party, they all knew my name,
But no one recognized me, I didn't look the same.
{Refrain}
But it's all right now, I learned my lesson well.
You see, you can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself.
People came from miles around, everyone was there.
Yoko brought her walrus, there was magic in the air.
And over in the corner, much to my surprise,
Mr. Hughes hid in Dylan's shoes, wearing his disguise.
Played them all the old songs, thought that's why they came;
No one heard the music, we didn't look the same.
I said hello to Mary Lou, she belongs to me.
When I sang a song about a honky-tonk, it was time to leave...
Someone opened up a closet door and out stepped Johnny B. Goode.
Playing guitar like a-ringin' a bell and lookin' like he should...
If you gotta play at garden parties, I wish you a lotta luck.
But if memories were all I sang, I rather drive a truck.
{Refrain}
But it's all right now, I learned my lesson well.
You see, you can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself.So, it seems all Br. Yusuf really needs to do is please himself... and most importantly, Allah. salams, kareema |
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Post by flemmishfan on Apr 20, 2006 13:22:13 GMT -5
Yes Kareema i feel it this way to.Yusuf had a hard time when he was young he deserve it to please him self and he will always do it with allah on his site.He can 't change the world but he can help the childeren in need.Regine
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Post by flemmishfan on Apr 20, 2006 13:23:14 GMT -5
Sorry Allah
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Post by cristalina on Apr 20, 2006 17:00:56 GMT -5
Yes Kareema i feel it this way to.Yusuf had a hard time when he was young he deserve it to please him self and he will always do it with allah on his site.He can 't change the world but he can help the childeren in need.Regine In what way did Yusuf have a hard time when he was young? |
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Post by flemmishfan on Apr 21, 2006 12:31:51 GMT -5
We all now he was'nt happy with his live before he learn to now Islam.That he was not happy in the music business and very lonely.He found from his self that he was not easy to live with ( his greek ego)Not feeling allright with your self is really hard.Regine
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Post by kareema113 on Apr 21, 2006 12:47:20 GMT -5
We all now he was'nt happy with his live before he learn to now Islam.That he was not happy in the music business and very lonely.He found from his self that he was not easy to live with ( his greek ego)Not feeling allright with your self is really hard.Regine I think Regine means he was your proverbial Poor Little Rich Boy, dealing with that phenomenon known as 'wherever you go, there you are'. salams, kareema |
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Post by akiko20 on Jun 1, 2006 22:41:01 GMT -5
I went to MOL I still can't order Sir YI new cd It's not downloading HELP
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Post by Vivian on Jun 2, 2006 9:03:14 GMT -5
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