De Luxe Editions of Tillerman and Teaser

Excellent news! Always good to get something new! November 4 is marked on my calendar!

I checked, but I didn't see an advance-order opportunity on Amazon.

Interesting. I wonder if several of the bonus songs are the same as those included on the "9 Lives: Solo Demos from Morgan Studios" bootleg discussed in another thread?

The song titles from 9 Lives that are also on the Teaser and Tea deluxe CDs as bonus songs are as follows:

- Wild World
- If I Laugh
- Changes IV
- Rubylove
- How Can I Tell You

If this is the case, then another 10 songs from 9 Lives will still be kept officially unavailable. These include:

- Can This Be Love (who knows if we'll ever see this)
- Katmandu (Perhaps we'll see this on a deluxe version of Mona Bone Jakon)
- Morning Has Broken (Strange not to see the demo version of this on the Teaser deluxe CD)
- It's So Good (who knows if we'll ever see this)
- Tuesday's Dead (a live version from 1976 is included on the Teaser CD, not the demo version)
- Don't Be Shy (perhaps there will one day be an official CD reissue of the Harold and Maude soundtrack that will contain this demo version)
- Moonshadow (a live version recorded at the Troubadour is included on the Teaser CD, not the demo version)
- Peace Train (a South African mix is included on the Teaser CD, not the demo version)
- The Fisherman (who knows if we'll ever see this)
- If You Want to Sing Out, Sing Out (perhaps there will one day be an official CD reissue of the Harold and Maude soundtrack that will contain this demo version)

Of course, it's possible that the songs on the deluxe Teaser and Tea CDs will be completely different than those on the 9 Lives bootleg. Which means there could be an official release of these Morgan Studio demos sometime in the future....which would be great. If on the other hand, the 5 songs mentioned above are the same as those on 9 Lives, then we may never see an official release of the other songs. Let's keep our fingers crossed. It certainly appears that Yusuf is keen on opening up the 'vaults'. Perhaps there are more treasures or 'lives' to share with the fans than just those Morgan Studios demos.

Jeremy

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I mostly agree with you jonathan

the re-printing of re-priting of re-issues is today business for records company, records dont sell anymore so re-packaging endless times the same stuff is what is left -

but i look forward to these reissues also for the booklets, cat stevens and the others people involved new notes and writings etc

and even some of the live recordings belong to amodern era, like the cafè performances, i think they tried to regroup different performances of songs that anyway belong to the Tea for the tillerman tracklist, so is like a trip through the ages to see how the same songs changed through the years

I was just wondering, do the record companies own the rights to these unreleased songs, and what songs go on theses new releases, or does YI have a say as well? Does YI also keep copies of all his old studio recordings, or are they only in the hands of the companies? Do the companies have to get permission from YI, or is it the other way round? Sorry, but I don't really know how the music business really works? His home recordings must be in his own possesion, so I doubt he would release any of this matter. His family would want to treasure this only, and I think it's unerstandable. He might be a public figure, but they are entitled to at least a small piece for keep sake. Can someone shed some light?

I remember asking exactly the same thing when I ran INXS' fan club. They did the same thing, as all artists do, release and rerelease the same songs over and over on different compilations and special box sets and anthology series and rarities reissues, on and on... As a fan who wants all the unique demos and live cuts and alternate versions of songs, it gets expensive and kind of tiresome really. Their manager explained the same thing... depends on the deals they cut with the record companies and who holds the publishing rights and what they might still "owe" contract-wise. Extremely complicated and you know what? They're really not too keen to explain the how's and why's and inner workings behind these decisions (business secrets you know). In the band's case, they own their own publishing, so they make more money percentage-wise. I don't know, it's really complicated trying to figure it out. I too wish artists wouldn't keep releasing the same things.
I'll bet these 'demos' are from 9 Lives since this surfaced not too long ago, probably during the pre-production of these new re-issues with rare tracks. Somebody got a hold of these demos and created the 9 Lives boot. Not too ethical... but...that's the way it goes sometimes.

Well at least one thing will come out of Nov. 4. WIth a little luck, MAYBE more good news will happen on that date. In the meantime, I just returned from vacation in Hawaii and have a maxed out credit card, so until I can make a CC payment, this week, it will have to wait. UNLESS.....does anyone know if I can use PAYPAL? I use another account for that.

Peace,Vivian

thanx for the info, m@k.

Yusuf’s Café? Majikat?

Oh man...i'm sorely disappointed...

Just checked the mail... I recieved both my copies of the delux adition of TFTT and TATF... Yea... Listen to them latter... I must pick up my grandson fron kindergarden... Yea

Has anybody figured out if the 'demos' are the ones on 9 Lives CD?

As if these albums aren't frustrating enough, Amazon is now offering U.S. residents only, an mp3 only demo version of Katmandu, limited to the month of december if Tea and Teaser are purchased in the one transaction! Infuriating!

As for the albums themselves, so far here in Australia I've only been able to find a release date for Tea for the Tillerman through play4me.com.au (for all my Aussie Majicat friends) and not until the 24th November. There's not even a mention yet for Teaser!!! Tea will cost $32.99 presently.

So, what'll happen to the backlog of Tea and Teaser albums? Will they be made into landfill or something? And then, if these deluxe albums become a limited release, will 'newly' packaged 'original' albums be back on the shelves.
As I've read elsewhere, these deluxe albums could have easily fit on a single disc!
Too many issues here, we're urged to take responsibility and look after our planet... and then enticed to do the opposite. All the while, those who have always been able to make a difference to this world - governing bodies, remain corrupt and powerful.

7 TRILLION dollars to bolster the U.S. economy? - proof that, if they really wanted to, the powers that be could feed the worlds poor and help make the world what it should be.

I've detoured slightly, but that's the way my post has gone - a bit of venting!

I'm not detracting from the obvious good work that Cat/Yusuf has done. Much much more than most. Still, I don't have to agree with everything he does...

Oh and also - I echo mckenzy and Milan, hasn't somebody had the opportunity to hear/compare both? Please... let us know

Cheers, J

you can currently listen to all of deluxe tillerman and teaser on the cat stevens myspace page.
cheers,
Mike

I thought I would throw in my own 2 cents here. First, the demos are definitely (in my opinion) the same as those on 9 Lives. The same goes for the Katmandu MP3 download.

Second, I, too, thought the inclusion of Café Session tracks was a bit crazy. Then I realized I was thinking like a fan and not like a marketer. Most of us here have bought everything Cat / Yusuf since the day we were first hooked, and will continue to do so. If nothing else, as someone else in this thread wrote, we want the booklets and any other little thing that is “new.” However, not everyone likely to buy these new versions is like us, and we are not the only ones being targeted to buy them. There certainly must be a significant number of people who owned TFTT and TATF back in the day, but weren’t necessarily huge Cat Stevens fans. Perhaps the only copy of those albums they owned were just that – vinyl albums. Or the fans who bought all the albums but moved on when YI moved on. And how many people who were fans of CS still don’t even know about YI? Get them to buy the new versions, expose them to Yusuf, some live tracks, and hopefully they will run out and purchase Yusuf’s Café Session, Majikat, An Other Cup, or other CS CDs. Cha-ching.

It is that cha-ching that enables Yusuf to do all the great work for which we so admire him. Yes, we are helping to make the record people rich, but more important, we are contributing to Yusuf’s work. Maybe we can feel good about that as we listen to our new CDs.