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Post by crobarbie on Feb 13, 2011 14:40:08 GMT -5
Well, I am very angry... no matter if I have ticket for Munich, but because this was very, very unfair to all Yusuf's danish fans which bought tickets... And who'll refund them (for many of them, I am sure) costs for early flight bookings, and others costs like this? I can't imagine how angry I would be if I would have to cancel my trip to Munich and, lets say for example, for a trip to Hamburg? Sorry, people are not holograms, this is not Star Track, and even if you have the option that your ticket will be valid is worthless if you'll travel cca 500 kilometres (or even more)...
I think that Yusuf has the duty to speak and explain what has happened, and not to wait any day more... I will not buy opinions like "poor Yusuf, it is all due the promoters...", because he many times explains that he does not want to be part of music business anymore (regarding rules and dehumanization in it), that now he has full control with that etc.
No, I do not want to idolize Yusuf, if he made or his management a mistake than he must admitt it, so I am waiting... like thousands of his danish fans :-(
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Post by rubylove25 on Feb 13, 2011 15:23:35 GMT -5
We have all been looking forward to these Concerts and for some seeing Yusuf perform again for the first time in many years - the excitement we all felt a few days ago has been tarnished because of the cancellation - yes we do need an explanation but please let us all remember Yusuf in all this Im sure he wouldnt want his true fans to feel this way.
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Post by JaneB on Feb 13, 2011 15:33:26 GMT -5
I have to agree with Barney on this. I am one who frequently talks about how happy I am that Yusuf returned to music. I like to think that Yusuf is at least equally as happy that we were all still here when he did. Unless the venue in Herning suddenly decided they didn't want the concert there, I think this was a very bad decision. Barney is right - Yusuf himself needs to speak to this, to his fans who waited more than 30 years - 30 years! - for the chance to see him perform live again, and whose dreams have now been squashed. "I'm sorry" only goes so far, especially when it is coming from an anonymous webmaster. His fans - ESPECIALLY those that have tickets to Herning - deserve better than that.
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Post by Chris on Feb 13, 2011 15:42:12 GMT -5
I received this note from Yusuf Islam.com to post. It is in response to the many disappointed fans. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We understand that many people who purchased tickets for Herning are very upset about the decision to change the venue from Herning to Stockholm. Unfortunately circumstances arise sometimes where no other decision is a possibility and this is one of those times. The rest of the tour will not be affected at all and all tour dates are now 100% confirmed, God Willing. Sorry again for the inconvenience caused to many of you. The Promoters have confirmed to us that people who bought tickets for Herning are eligible to transfer there ticket to Stockholm or ask for a full refund. Some have asked why it wasn't possible to add another date, unfortunately this also was not a possibility we looked at all options available and this was the best one. yusufislam.com |
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Post by crobarbie on Feb 13, 2011 15:44:49 GMT -5
And... for Ale (our Majicat friend from Montevideo)... I really expect that someone in Yusuf's management (Majid, are you still reading this/our posts?) or Yusuf himself will contact Ale and find a solution which will help him to have opportinity to attend Yusuf's concert (i think that travel ticket from Dennmark to Sweeden and back and one night accomodation in Stockholm? would be ok) because he is a member of our Majicat and he was ready to travel even from Montevideo to Denmark... and Majicat is not just a Yusuf's facebook fan page, it is a real community, and it was even years before Facebook and even before Yusuf's made his comeback to music. That help for Ale will be a great gesture to all of us who supported Yusuf all these years, in bad and good times!
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Post by crobarbie on Feb 13, 2011 15:49:37 GMT -5
I received this note from Yusuf Islam.com to post. It is in response to the many disappointed fans. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We understand that many people who purchased tickets for Herning are very upset about the decision to change the venue from Herning to Stockholm. Unfortunately circumstances arise sometimes where no other decision is a possibility and this is one of those times. The rest of the tour will not be affected at all and all tour dates are now 100% confirmed, God Willing. Sorry again for the inconvenience caused to many of you. The Promoters have confirmed to us that people who bought tickets for Herning are eligible to transfer there ticket to Stockholm or ask for a full refund. Some have asked why it wasn't possible to add another date, unfortunately this also was not a possibility we looked at all options available and this was the best one. yusufislam.comNo, Christine, this is not the answer which we on Majicat expect from Yusuf (and not from his webmaster!) ... a few hours ago I have read this statement on Yusuf's web. It is polite, but even the minor band/artist management would post such a explanation, so I am not satisfied with it. Sorry. |
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Post by M. on Feb 13, 2011 16:30:27 GMT -5
M. (Monika)! Your comment has been posted at yusufislam.com, along with lots of apologies. Hope everyone will go take a look. YES!! Thank you, suncatcher, and now the comment by Niels Jørgen Rohde is missing  :edit: and now it's back again ;D ...hm... i dont know, but possibly this mysterious thing has political backgrounds...  Why else do they make such a secret of it? |
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Post by rubylove25 on Feb 13, 2011 16:41:18 GMT -5
I agree an apology is not enough - this Majicat family have been here through thick and thin through the "drought" years when there was nothing but the memories from previous Concerts - we are MES AMIS !!!!!
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Post by sabina on Feb 13, 2011 16:42:09 GMT -5
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Post by JaneB on Feb 13, 2011 16:51:57 GMT -5
I prefer not to start guessing why this happened - I don't have a crystal ball and even if I did, I don't know how to use one. Personally, I think this is hurtful and ugly enough without adding all kinds of supposition to it.
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Post by oysterman on Feb 13, 2011 16:54:56 GMT -5
Danish cartoons come to mind - I think that possibly this is a political and safety first decision. A prominent muslim would no doubt be subject to scrutiny by both the Danish media and the World of Islam. Doesn't make this right but could explain why we won't hear the real reason.
Niavity by the promoter and/or Yusuf in booking this is probably true if that is the explanation. I hope it is something less sinister but of course I'm just speculating.
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Post by soitis on Feb 13, 2011 16:56:07 GMT -5
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Post by sabina on Feb 13, 2011 17:19:32 GMT -5
I prefer not to start guessing why this happened - I don't have a crystal ball and even if I did, I don't know how to use one. Personally, I thi experienck this is hurtful and ugly enough without adding all kinds of supposition to it. ???Sorry if my musings have upset anyone....just that I have had some experience of getting caught up in stuff unintentionally in my past...I want Yusuf to be safe...like we all do....I will not mention this again unless someone else does..........  |
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Post by JaneB on Feb 13, 2011 17:37:30 GMT -5
I prefer not to start guessing why this happened - I don't have a crystal ball and even if I did, I don't know how to use one. Personally, I thi experienck this is hurtful and ugly enough without adding all kinds of supposition to it. ???Sorry if my musings have upset anyone....just that I have had some experience of getting caught up in stuff unintentionally in my past...I want Yusuf to be safe...like we all do....I will not mention this again unless someone else does.......... Sabina - it didn't upset me. I was just expressing my own opinion on the topic. |
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Post by downunder72 on Feb 13, 2011 17:39:50 GMT -5
As I am not able to attend any of the concerts, I was hesitant if I should make a comment about the cancellation of the Herning concert because I don't want to seem that I am not sympathetic to all the disappointed fans. Everyones anger is justified, but I think we should be realistic and believe some decisions are sadly out of Yusufs jurisdiction. Maybe some business decisions can't be discussed openly by Yusuf. I am sure if Yusuf could speak, he would waste no time and speak about it. For whatever the reason, and it will sooner or later surface, but till then, I feel our anger should not be targeted personally at Yusuf. I have not been part of this Majicat community as long as some members, but I have been long enough to know only too well, it is a very special community, and no one can deny, a unique community which has supported Yusuf not only through his happy times, but also through some very troubled waters. Even so, we must not think WE are more previliged to certain rights, or an explaination. It is very sad for Ale, and I too would not like to be in his position, I would be devastated, but I don't think it would be fair if Ale was given special treatment. I am sure every Danish fan that bought tickets for that concert, is devoted and true to Yusuf, and we don't know, but there may have been others who are travelling from afar to go to Herning. I know you are all speaking on behalf of Ale, and all the other dissapointed fans, but for Ale, one solution would be to get the refund, and not consider Sweeden, but to get a train to the Hamburg concert on the 10th. It seems more practical. I know it may not be posibble economically, or time wise, but I am trying to put myself in Ales position. As Ale has already booked the flight tickets, he should try not to let this opportunity get away. I don't know what date Ales return flight is, but if he has a few days stay, he might be able to make it for the Hamburg concert by train. I know easier said than done, but Ales brother bought two tickets, so maybe his brothers refunded ticket, could go to Ales train ticket, well I would if I knew how much it would mean to my brother, and considering his long flight expenses,and all. I know I should not be assuming so much as I am not really aware of Ales position, nor if his brother is able to help him finacially, so excuse me, and sorry Ale if you read this, just making a suggestion to help if I can. I would never like to be in Ales position, but if I still had the flight tickets, I would be racking my brain to find a solution. Maybe someone can suggest to Ale the cheapest transport to get to Hamburg and back. He won't be alone in Hamburg, there will be majicatters there, and he won't feel alone, it is some extra compensation.  I think we should all remember it is our own personal choice, and for our own personal reasons to be part of this special community Majicat, and not to expect more from Yusuf than we already have, and that is the happiness that he is back, and for some of us here, the opportunity to see him perform again P.S Just read the above posts, I agree with Jane we should keep away from such discussions for the moment, for obvious reasons. Too much speculation could do more harm than good, we must remember there are visitors coming here that do not always come with good intentions. |
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Post by suncatcher on Feb 13, 2011 18:00:13 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, Ale didn't even buy airline tickets yet, and I don't hear him complaining about any of this.  Someone as caring and sensitive as Yusuf would surely feel things very deeply, and I'm sure he's feeling a kind of agony over this unfortunate turn of events. I have no doubt that he loves his fans and is taking all this heat for very good reasons. Maybe he can't speak publicly, much as he'd like to explain, because it's wiser not to, for reasons he can't divulge. It's difficult for the fans, but it's excruciating for Yusuf, too. He would never, ever want to let down his fans, and it must be awful to not be able to explain. I'm sure he'll do his best to ease the pain, and if he could keep Herning he would, but he can't. I know that the Herning ticket holders feel very let down, and as someone who can't go to any concerts, I feel at least some of their pain. But maybe they simply have to make the best of it and move on. |
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Post by Chris on Feb 13, 2011 18:45:13 GMT -5
Very well said Sun. We do not know all the logistic behind the rhyme and reason why this has happened. But Yusuf is not the only band that has cancelled certain tour dates. And he will not be the last. It is very sad that the Denmark fans and in particular Ale, have lost their chance at seeing Yusuf. And I feel for them. But I am sure Yusuf has agonized over this. He is not the sort of person who would do this with out a lot of thought. So lets give him a little slack. We can be sad for the fans with out being accusing. I do understand what Ale is going through and can relate, but we also need to accept things and try to be understanding. I was in the same shoes a few years ago. I was all set to go to the May 2009 New York City concert, I had my airline tickets bought and everything ready. But unfortunately... my country the USA prolonged Yusuf getting his working Visa for so long that he had to cancel the New York city concert that I was so looking forward to. They offered me tickets to L.A.... but after wasting tickets to NYC, I could not afford tickets to L.A. I was upset, but you have to learn to accept things and go on. Just try sometime to be the person who was responsible for inviting all the majicatters to the L.A. concert and not being able to attend yourself?... Some times things just happen. We have to learn a little understanding in situations we know nothing about. I couldn't go to the one concert I always wanted to see by George Harrison either, back in the late 70's at Cleveland. It was cancelled a month before the concert date. No explaination.. just canceled and he never ever did return to Cleveland. So please lets stop all this accusing, the man probably feels bad enough all ready with all his fans dogging him. It doesn't help. And no.. I do not feel Yusuf owes us answers for everything he does. Just be happy that he is performing again in Europe and you are able to see him. So please, lets try and give the man a break. |
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Post by suncatcher on Feb 14, 2011 0:13:40 GMT -5
Thank you, Christine. You made many excellent points which were good to hear.
Peace,
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Post by sabina on Feb 14, 2011 0:33:08 GMT -5
-I echo Sun ...thank you Christine...............
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Post by crobarbie on Feb 14, 2011 11:28:04 GMT -5
I couldn't go to the one concert I always wanted to see by George Harrison either, back in the late 70's at Cleveland. It was cancelled a month before the concert date. No explaination.. just canceled and he never ever did return to Cleveland. So please lets stop all this accusing, the man probably feels bad enough all ready with all his fans dogging him. It doesn't help. And no.. I do not feel Yusuf owes us answers for everything he does. Just be happy that he is performing again in Europe and you are able to see him. So please, lets try and give the man a break. I do not agree with you Christine... I do not expect the full explanation from Yusuf, but his danish fans DESERVE a little bit more than "Due to overwhelming public demand... blablabla"!! Ok, maybe he is not in position to undercover all circumstances (if any!?) but it would be appropriate if Yusuf personally adress his fans, with a small message signed with "Love/Pece Yusuf" and not to do that via webmaster, tout promoteur or who else. I am sorry that Yusuf has not learned enough from "Rushdie case", becasue his fans expect from him to speak clearly, nothng more and nothing less. I do not care what G. Harrison did in Cleveland, I always beleive that Yusuf is a better person than many in music business, so my expectations from him are above "standards", even in "small things" or "big things". So, I believe that it was not easy for Yusuf to accept the reason(s) for canceling concert (move it to Stockholm), but he now needs to make a one more effort... just to writte a small simple letter to his fans on his web, facebook page etc. No need for any deep explanation, but just not this kind of "robotics" communication with his fans like it was via his webmaster.  peace, Barney |
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Post by G-One on Feb 15, 2011 5:24:57 GMT -5
I agree Barney. A short, honest explanation would be appropriate.
Otherwise rumors will occur, such as "Muhammad caricatures" :-(
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Post by soitis on Feb 15, 2011 9:11:58 GMT -5
Maybe he don't have any choice.
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Post by flemmishfangent on Feb 15, 2011 14:54:39 GMT -5
Look we don't now why but lets say it has something to do with those cartoons and it's a treat on his live would'ent we take are wont that risk for Yusuf ,i don't .And if he says something to us would it not be spread around on the internet sometimes you find pieces of our talkings of Majicat on google,he can't take that risk lets believe in our ami .
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Post by flemmishfangent on Feb 15, 2011 14:57:50 GMT -5
iF ALE FINDS A WAY TO COME TO GERMANY THINK CHRISTINA HAS A TICKET MORE OVER.We would be there to take care of him as Majicatters
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Post by suncatcher on Feb 15, 2011 15:14:06 GMT -5
iF ALE FINDS A WAY TO COME TO GERMANY THINK CHRISTINA HAS A TICKET MORE OVER.We would be there to take care of him as Majicatters That's so sweet (second time I used the word "sweet" today)! Isn't magicat wonderful! |
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Post by Uruguayo on Feb 16, 2011 19:01:37 GMT -5
Sun, you are right, I did not buy the flight tickets and I agree, we should not let down Yusuf because of this. Maybe it is time to give back with comprehension some of the joy he still brings to our lives.
When my brother got to know that Herning was changed to Stockholm, rang me and said he could not make it to Sweden and that seemed to be the end of it. He managed to get tickets to Hamburg and happily told me the good news. Full of excitement, I went to book the flight tickets, then to realize that the price showed on the web page (1.082 US) was missing almost 900 of taxes. I cannot make it at all. Maybe I could not make it from the very beginning.
At one point I thought I could and dreamed like a child, but I had to painfully overcome the joy and leave the illusion. I have been devastated. The passion for Cat’s music drove me mad. I am though getting my head back.
I will follow you guys with my heart and keep on joining this forum to share your experiences. My dream will never come true, and that is how life is. I am not alone, I think it was Christine that missed it in 2009. I will dry my tears and hope you guys will enjoy the concerts for me.
Love
Ale
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Post by G-One on Feb 17, 2011 4:22:47 GMT -5
Hey Ale,
don't give up! Your dream will come true one day. Ten years ago no one of us had even the slightest hope to see him back on stage again. If some one had told me, I'll experience this five times within four years (2007-2011), I would have bet all my possession against it!!
I'm sure Yusufs world hopping tour will lead him to the american continent soon. And as he did spent some time in Brazil, he will revisit it - I bet!
Fingers crossed :-)
Gabi
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Post by JaneB on Feb 17, 2011 9:02:53 GMT -5
Ale, I agree with Gabi. Remember how surprised we all were when he went to Australia last year? So many people there saw their dream come true. Don't give up! You never know where Yusuf's heart will take him next.
Jane
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Post by G-One on Feb 17, 2011 9:09:26 GMT -5
Guten Morgen, gut geschlafen, Jane? |
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Post by JaneB on Feb 17, 2011 9:13:28 GMT -5
Guten Morgen, gut geschlafen, Jane? Ja, ich Schlief sehr gut, ich danke Ihnen für Fragen! I hope Babylon got it right! |
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