|
|
Post by vermithrax on Sept 22, 2004 5:10:12 GMT -5
Yusuf Islam became the center of a security alert today, when he was escorted from his flight by the FBI.The reason for this is,as yet,not clear although it appears that his name appeared on some kind of security list.He was refused entry into the US and is being sent home later today.
Vermithrax
|
|
|
|
Post by Katmandu on Sept 22, 2004 5:17:37 GMT -5
I saw it on cnn.com this morning....I'm shocked and
I have to learn more about this.
|
|
|
|
Post by jozthebest on Sept 22, 2004 8:23:57 GMT -5
I've been away from the site for quite awhile due to a months long hospitalization for a really nasty lupus flare. I hope you've all been well and happy . I'm very sad that Yusuf Islam's detainment in the U.S. is what brought me back to the message board. I'm shocked that after years of charitable and philanthropic good deeds, and his record of condeming terrorism and tireless work for peace that he should be held against his will and denied entry into the U.S. I live in Maine where he is being detained and the local news is all over this story- because two of the 9/11 terrorists used the Portland, Maine airport to reach Boston I think the powers that be are extremely suspicious. How humiliating and insulting for him to be treated this way. I wish him a safe journey home and my apology as an American citizen and a resident of Maine, where we usually treat our guests in a much more respectful fashion.
|
|
|
|
Post by faithfullight on Sept 22, 2004 8:28:33 GMT -5
jozthebest, I hope that you are recovering. I wish you well. I am absolutely shocked that Yusuf would be on a list of suspicious people.  Do you suppose it is related to him being banned from Israel years ago? This doesn't make sense to me. I am so sorry that Yusuf was treated this way. I have yet to see it on the news myself. If I see it, I know that my jaws will drop in unbelief. |
|
|
|
Post by balicat on Sept 22, 2004 8:42:31 GMT -5
I am appalled by this unfortunate news!!!! I signed up at this site because I can't get into cs.com. I wonder if they are closing it down as a terrorist threat. (some of you may know me: amysobi) OMG!!
|
|
|
|
Post by jozthebest on Sept 22, 2004 8:50:43 GMT -5
Thank you for your good wishes, I am gaining strength every day. I'm sure that whatever paranoid logic that Israeli officials used to deny Yusuf's entry into that country a few years ago is much the same that the U.S. is employing now to keep him out here as well. I'm all for national security and understand that there are people in this world will commit unspeakable acts to try to strongarm everyone into sharing their own twisted points of view. This doesn't pass the straight face test, though. If you could think of a single person who embodies the notion of peace on Earth, looking out for the poor and unfortunate, and nurturing the next generation through enlightened education it would be Yusuf Islam. I think this is all about Bush taking advantage of making this grand gesture - because we know the media will have a field day with it- to show how on top of fighting terrorism he is. It's totally about getting some good publicity for the election. We can only hope it backfires and people see it for the cheap shot that it is.
|
|
kabir
Oh Very Young
Posts: 8
|
Post by kabir on Sept 22, 2004 9:12:41 GMT -5
It's very sad, but it doesn't shock me... Ted Kennedy has been kicked off flights because he's on the same list and can't get off of it! I hope it's just a mistake (Yusuf Islam is a fairly common name) and they're not just targetting this poor guy for his faith... jack www.jackmctamney.comp.s. i can't even get on the catman's website today... |
|
|
|
Post by Vivian on Sept 22, 2004 9:18:30 GMT -5
jozthebest, I hope that you are recovering. I wish you well. I am absolutely shocked that Yusuf would be on a list of suspicious people. Do you suppose it is related to him being banned from Israel years ago? This doesn't make sense to me. I am so sorry that Yusuf was treated this way. I have yet to see it on the news myself. If I see it, I know that my jaws will drop in unbelief. How can this be related to what happened with Israel? Yusuf has been in this country numerous times since, including just a few months ago, promoting Small Kindness, USA. And wasn't he in Chicago Labor Day weekend, as he is every year. This is completely senseless. Peace,Vivian |
|
|
|
Post by vermithrax on Sept 22, 2004 10:17:49 GMT -5
Apparently they are suspicious of
some of the charities he donates to.
Vermithrax.
|
|
|
|
Post by nefertiti on Sept 22, 2004 10:24:44 GMT -5
I am appalled by this unfortunate news!!!! I signed up at this site because I can't get into cs.com. I wonder if they are closing it down as a terrorist threat. (some of you may know me: amysobi) OMG!! My dear, In my opinion, this is a much nicer site, welcome. Its sad that you registered under such unfortunate circumstances  |
|
|
|
Post by balicat on Sept 22, 2004 11:28:50 GMT -5
My dear, In my opinion, this is a much nicer site, welcome. Its sad that you registered under such unfortunate circumstances Well, I do have a need to use the poetry thread at cs. on a daily basis....so yes, I paniced! And you could be right....might be a nicer site, but as a computer numbskull I've found it a bit user-unfriendly so far!!  Thanks for the welcome! peace, amy |
|
|
|
Post by antileftist on Sept 22, 2004 11:32:02 GMT -5
The leftist pansy had it coming. The last thing we need in this country is one more burned-out, tired, crybaby 60s type stirring up the hyper-emotional typical socialists who are in too great a number anyhow. VOTE FOR BUSH/CHENEY and buy stock in Halliburton.
|
|
|
|
Post by jlimoti on Sept 22, 2004 11:58:08 GMT -5
The leftist pansy had it coming. The last thing we need in this country is one more burned-out, tired, crybaby Here we go .... the brainwashed qwacks are here.... and since I didn't realize there was another thread about this, here's my last message again: Cat Stevens Treated Like A Terrorist By US Government By Paul Cashmere 22 September 2004 The paranoia of the Bush administration has reached Nixon proportions with singer Cat Stevens being treated like a terrorist and denied entry into the USA. The 'Peace Train' singer, who at the height of his fame became a Muslim, was on Flight 919 to Washington from London yesterday when it was discovered that he was on a US government watch list including the 'no-fly' list......... T'was hard to reach that article at: www.undercover.com.au/news/2004/aug04/undercover.cssOf Nixon proportions... I'd say of McCarthy proportions... So what's next? deport him to Syria where he can be properly "interrogated" like Maher Arar was? www.cbc.ca/news/background/arar/arar_statement.htmlor better yet to the ILLEGAL Guantanamo "camp"? Sorry, but you CAN'T dissociate politics from this story. Hmmm.... what was the last and only other country that did this to him again? Hmmm? A little "intelligence sharing" between "friends"? Consider the original source of this, and it all clears up! SHAME.. SHAME.. SHAME.. SHAME... SHAME.... SHAME |
|
|
|
Post by nefertiti on Sept 22, 2004 12:04:22 GMT -5
Well, I do have a need to use the poetry thread at cs. on a daily basis....so yes, I paniced! And you could be right....might be a nicer site, but as a computer numbskull I've found it a bit user-unfriendly so far!! Thanks for the welcome! peace, amy We do have a poetry thread here, doll. Can someone be a sweetheart and find the link to the poetry thread for our new member? |
|
|
|
Post by that’sDOCTOR2u on Sept 22, 2004 12:27:55 GMT -5
The leftist pansy had it coming. The last thing we need in this country is one more burned-out, tired, crybaby 60s type stirring up the hyper-emotional typical socialists who are in too great a number anyhow. VOTE FOR BUSH/CHENEY and buy stock in Halliburton. Well now, isn't this special |
|
|
|
Post by TangledUpInBlue on Sept 22, 2004 12:31:57 GMT -5
Hi, Just wanted to let you all know that Yusuf is in good spirits and doing okay. (He sees this as just a dumb mistake, which is what it is.) I spoke with John for a moment today and he let me know. The Cat.com server has been very busy today which is the reason for the site slowness. (Amy, are you in poetry withdrawl yet??!!) ~ Ce |
|
|
|
Post by waterside on Sept 22, 2004 12:45:04 GMT -5
Thanks so much for letting us know that Yusuf is doing OK and his spirits are good, Ce. I feel so bad for Yusuf. I can't believe this has happened. Our thoughts and prayers are with you Yusuf.
|
|
|
|
Post by faithfullight on Sept 22, 2004 12:47:22 GMT -5
Thank you Cece for telling us about Yusuf. I hope that he knows that we are so sorry that this happened to him and that we still love and support him.
|
|
|
|
Post by TangledUpInBlue on Sept 22, 2004 12:48:47 GMT -5
You're quite welcome. I saw it last night and though, "Oh, man, what is going on!!" I knew those who care for Yusuf would be worried, especially with cat.com being so bogged down as well, so I wanted to let you all know. I am just glad to know that Yusuf IS in good spirits and is able to rise above this. He's a good man. Let's keep sending good thoughts and support his way. .  ~ Ce |
|
|
|
Post by balicat on Sept 22, 2004 19:25:33 GMT -5
We do have a poetry thread here, doll. Can someone be a sweetheart and find the link to the poetry thread for our new member? That's ok, I could never be comfortable posting my poetry where I am treated in a concescending manner. peace, amy |
|
|
|
Post by Vivian on Sept 22, 2004 20:32:34 GMT -5
Thanks for letting us know, Cece. And yes, Yusuf WILL rise above this. He WILL clear his name, and Ses Amis will be right by his side(figuratively speaking)
Peace,Vivian
|
|
|
|
Post by antileftist on Sept 22, 2004 23:53:00 GMT -5
The idea that no one will go without is an absolutely deplorable idea to anyone with intellect sufficient to understand conceptually the workings of nature, life, and the drive for survival. Only those who can "go with" on their own, without the assistance of others, should "go with". That the superior should sacrifice that which is theirs, which they have worked for and acquired through their own, voluntary-exchange based pursuit of their own wealth, to the inferior simply for the survival of the inferior (or so the inferior don't have to "go without" is to deny life to the superior and the inferior. It also represents a complete lack of efficiency in the allocation of resources, as the least productive, those unable to survive on their own, are provided a means of survival which they did not earn. This survival perpetuates their existence and the existence of their inferior genetic makeup in the overall gene pool, resulting in future generations of the inferior which are more inferior than the present. This is the ultimate lack of compassion, or, stated another way, the absolute embodiment of evil. However, the prevention of this evil is not the justification for ensuring that the superior are adequately rewarded for their superiority. The superior will be adequately, and naturally, rewarded for their superiority by simply being left to their own devices, free from restriction of any kind in the use of their property, their intellect, and their wealth, regardless of the consequences to the "collective".
|
|
|
|
Post by stinky on Sept 23, 2004 9:32:27 GMT -5
The idea that no one will go without is an absolutely deplorable idea to anyone with intellect sufficient to understand conceptually the workings of nature, life, and the drive for survival. Only those who can "go with" on their own, without the assistance of others, should "go with". That the superior should sacrifice that which is theirs, which they have worked for and acquired through their own, voluntary-exchange based pursuit of their own wealth, to the inferior simply for the survival of the inferior (or so the inferior don't have to "go without" is to deny life to the superior and the inferior. It also represents a complete lack of efficiency in the allocation of resources, as the least productive, those unable to survive on their own, are provided a means of survival which they did not earn. This survival perpetuates their existence and the existence of their inferior genetic makeup in the overall gene pool, resulting in future generations of the inferior which are more inferior than the present. This is the ultimate lack of compassion, or, stated another way, the absolute embodiment of evil. However, the prevention of this evil is not the justification for ensuring that the superior are adequately rewarded for their superiority. The superior will be adequately, and naturally, rewarded for their superiority by simply being left to their own devices, free from restriction of any kind in the use of their property, their intellect, and their wealth, regardless of the consequences to the "collective". Again, in English please. |
|
|
|
Post by that’sDOCTOR2u on Sept 23, 2004 9:50:13 GMT -5
Again, in English please. Nah, we really don't need to see that again in any language |
|
|
|
Post by boneheadedwoman on Sept 23, 2004 15:22:28 GMT -5
Again, in English please. Whew, glad it's not just me....for a minute there, I was wondering what was in that brownie I just ate! |
|
|
|
Post by CATFAN56 on Sept 23, 2004 16:19:48 GMT -5
Thank you for your good wishes, I am gaining strength every day. I'm sure that whatever paranoid logic that Israeli officials used to deny Yusuf's entry into that country a few years ago is much the same that the U.S. is employing now to keep him out here as well. I'm all for national security and understand that there are people in this world will commit unspeakable acts to try to strongarm everyone into sharing their own twisted points of view. This doesn't pass the straight face test, though. If you could think of a single person who embodies the notion of peace on Earth, looking out for the poor and unfortunate, and nurturing the next generation through enlightened education it would be Yusuf Islam. I think this is all about Bush taking advantage of making this grand gesture - because we know the media will have a field day with it- to show how on top of fighting terrorism he is. It's totally about getting some good publicity for the election. We can only hope it backfires and people see it for the cheap shot that it is. |
|
|
|
Post by CATFAN56 on Sept 23, 2004 16:20:48 GMT -5
Hi, Just wanted to let you all know that Yusuf is in good spirits and doing okay. (He sees this as just a dumb mistake, which is what it is.) I spoke with John for a moment today and he let me know. The Cat.com server has been very busy today which is the reason for the site slowness. (Amy, are you in poetry withdrawl yet??!!) ~ Ce |
|
|
|
Post by CATFAN56 on Sept 23, 2004 16:28:33 GMT -5
I WAS HORRIFIED UPON LEARNING ABOUT THIS MOST UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT.THERE WAS NO JUST REASON TO DENY MR ISLAM ENTRY INTO THE U.S. HE IS NO THREAT TO ANYONE OR COUNTRY.THE MEDIA HAS BEEN
HAVING AN BIG TIME JUSTIFYING THE HOMELAND SECURITY SPIN IN REGARDS TO THIS SHAMEFUL ACT.
AS AN AMERICAN I'M DEEPLY ASHAMED AND SADDENED BY IT ALL.
|
|
|
|
Post by CATFAN56 on Sept 23, 2004 16:40:45 GMT -5
IT IS REALLY AN WILD WORLD AS MR ISLAM ONCE SUNG ABOUT AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT IT'S HARD TO GET BY JUST UPON AN SMILE.HOW RELATIVE SADLY SO TRUE ESPECIALLY TODAY.  |
|
|
|
Post by kareema113 on Sept 23, 2004 19:30:34 GMT -5
Why is this thread in the Cat Stevens area?
And isn't cs.com back up yet?
just wondering,
kareema
|
|
Do you suppose it is related to him being banned from Israel years ago? This doesn't make sense to me. I am so sorry that Yusuf was treated this way. I have yet to see it on the news myself. If I see it, I know that my jaws will drop in unbelief. 
