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Post by suncatcher on Apr 14, 2011 2:25:09 GMT -5
1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you for your votes, Jane, Gabi, Richina, Christina, Pamela, Regi, Martina, Meg, elad, and Andrea. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To vote for the LOGO you want, just quote this post and put the number of the LOGO you want after your name.Here is the LOGO vote so far:(If I missed anyone, you notice any mistakes, or want to change your mind, please let me know. Thanks.  Name............................. Number of Logo Chosen
aurarisma----------------Logo2 and if not approved Logo1
elad-----------------------#1
flemmishfangent---------picture dove (logo 1)
G-One--------------------#1
ilovemycat---------------Logo #2
JaneB--------------------logo #2
marky49----------------#1
peacock------------------Logo #1 first choice #2 second choice
richina-------------------LOGO #2
rubylove25--------------Logo 1
suncatcher---------------Logo 1
____________________________________________________ 1. 7 out of 11 votes2. 4 out of 11 votes
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Post by suncatcher on Apr 14, 2011 2:26:13 GMT -5
2. CHOICES FOR THE TEXT:______________________________________________________________________ 1. FRIENDS OF
MAJICAT 2. FRIENDS OF
MAJICAT.COM 3. FRIENDS OF MAJICAT
Established 1999 4. FRIENDS OF MAJICAT.COM
Established 1999 5. FRIENDS OF MAJICAT
Cat Stevens Scrapbook 6. FRIENDS OF MAJICAT.COM
Cat Stevens Scrapbook Please Note:
I don't know anyone's initials, so to try Christina's suggestion of using our initials, I just plugged in ABC's. If the majority choose to use initials, then the ABC's would be replaced with our correct initials
7. FRIENDS OF MAJICAT
AB CD EF GH IJ KL MN OP QR ST UV 8. FRIENDS OF MAJICAT.COM
AB CD EF GH IJ KL MN OP QR ST UV ______________________________________________________________________ Thank you for your votes, Jane, Gabi, Richina, Christina, Pamela, Regi, Martina, elad, and Andrea. ______________________________________________________________________ To vote for the TEXT you want, just quote this post and put the number of the TEXT you want after your name.Here is the TEXT vote so far:(If I missed anyone, you notice any mistakes, or want to change your mind, please let me know. Thanks. Name............................. Number of the Text You Choose
aurarisma----------------text7
elad-----------------------#4
flemmishfangent---------3
G-One--------------------#1 or #7
ilovemycat---------------#4 or #3 (I'm torn)
JaneB---------------------#1
marky49------------------#1
peacock------------------TEXT #2 first choice #1 second choice
richina--------------------TEXT #3
rubylove25
suncatcher---------------TEXT #2
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Post by suncatcher on Apr 14, 2011 2:31:56 GMT -5
I shall go with the flow on it all I'm glad so many like the Dove its signifies unity and I know Yusuf will love it altho the photo of him in trandscension of Cat mode is nice too. I'm beginning to like 1text then 7 text and yesit would be nice to know about the fonts. Much Love and Peace xo If Christina goes with #1, then I will, too. That means that #2 is out of contention, which means that Pamela goes for #1, too. So, we finally get: Name............................. Number of the Text You Choose
aurarisma----------------#1
elad-----------------------#4
flemmishfangent---------3
G-One--------------------#1 or #7
ilovemycat---------------#4 or #3 (I'm torn)
JaneB---------------------#1
marky49------------------#1
peacock------------------#1
richina--------------------TEXT #3
rubylove25
suncatcher---------------TEXT #1
____________________________________________________ And Text #1 FRIENDS OF
MAJICAT gets 6 out of 11 votes, which is a majority. |
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Post by suncatcher on Apr 14, 2011 2:43:47 GMT -5
If everyone is happy with this, then the overall winner will be something like this:  |
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Post by suncatcher on Apr 14, 2011 2:51:11 GMT -5
P.S. Thanks Sun for preparing the mock-ups and for arranging the vote. And thanks Jane for collecting the money, communicating with the center, and arranging payment. And thanks donators for making the tile a reality. And thanks Christine for this amazing site that we all enjoy so immensely. And thanks Yusuf for creating the inspiring, amazing music and for being the incredible person that you are. And thanks Majicatters for hanging out here and letting us get to know you. Did I miss anyone ... thank you God for allowing me the opportunity to learn and grow... Going to hit the hay now. Its pretty late. I read a poem that made me cry and I feel like a mush ;D Please forgive me   Thank you for all these thank you's, Andrea. I'm glad you remembered God.  It's amazing how many people are behind this one little tile. And...it's late for me, too, and I also feel like mush! I hope everyone says they accept the design....Have to wait 'til morning to get feedback from everyone... Good night, anyone who's awake.   Peace, ~Sun~ |
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Post by sabina on Apr 14, 2011 9:06:15 GMT -5
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Post by richina on Apr 14, 2011 9:09:08 GMT -5
Okay here I go, even though the dove is a lovely symbol of peace and tranquility....how does it represent MAJICAT? We were started as a Cat Stevens fan site and it has grown to include (of course) Yusuf. People seeing the tile will have no understanding of the correlation between the symbol and the name. The image of Cat gives understanding to our name and if Est. 1999 is included on the tile, it gives even more explanation as to the image and our longevity as supporters of the man responsible for this center. Remember this is for all the world to see and our message has to be short, sweet, succinct and very self explanatory. Does the dove really explain who MAJICAT is to someone who has no idea? I want our tile to stand out, illicit memories, bring a smile, and tell the world that these "friends" were brought together by the love of a wonderful singer/songwriter who even when absent from the public eye, was never far from our hearts...and never will be.  Just food for thought. |
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Post by JaneB on Apr 14, 2011 10:58:30 GMT -5
I have to say I agree with Richina. If we are going to use the Majicat name, the "logo" we use should be more representative of it. Looking at the Majicat homepage, there are images of Cat/Yusuf, but no doves. I guess I would like to see a more cohesive "message."
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Post by rubylove25 on Apr 14, 2011 15:28:23 GMT -5
I agree and Im happy to go with the majority
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Post by aurarisma on Apr 14, 2011 18:24:44 GMT -5
I shall go with the flow on it all I'm glad so many like the Dove its signifies unity and I know Yusuf will love it altho the photo of him in trandscension of Cat mode is nice too. I'm beginning to like 1text then 7 text and yesit would be nice to know about the fonts. Much Love and Peace xo If Christina goes with #1, then I will, too. That means that #2 is out of contention, which means that Pamela goes for #1, too. So, we finally get: Name............................. Number of the Text You Choose
aurarisma----------------# 7 then 1
elad-----------------------#4
flemmishfangent---------3
G-One--------------------#1 or #7
ilovemycat---------------#4 or #3 (I'm torn)
JaneB---------------------#1
marky49------------------#1
peacock------------------#1
richina--------------------TEXT #3
rubylove25
suncatcher---------------TEXT #1
____________________________________________________ And Text #1 FRIENDS OF
MAJICAT gets 6 out of 11 votes, which is a majority. Sun did you like text 7 as well??? did you change yours  |
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Post by aurarisma on Apr 14, 2011 20:54:48 GMT -5
I really love the photo of Cat but it prob wouldt get approved why dont we send them both and see if they get both approved and go from there .. I like the dove because it bridges the gap to understanding which is what Cat/Yusuf is about ....I also like a music note whch i have good moc up for .. hard to really decide did they say to send a few mockups for approval ? |
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Post by ilovemycat on Apr 14, 2011 21:13:07 GMT -5
I really hate for this to sound like sour grapes, but I agree with Richina 100%. While the dove is beautiful, I don't think it reflects what we are about here. And if we are going with the dove, then maybe it should say .com after all, because there is nothing on that tile that ties it to us in any way (other than that we are a peaceful group ) |
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Post by suncatcher on Apr 14, 2011 21:14:51 GMT -5
If Christina goes with #1, then I will, too. That means that #2 is out of contention, which means that Pamela goes for #1, too. So, we finally get: Name............................. Number of the Text You Choose
aurarisma----------------# 7 then 1
elad-----------------------#4
flemmishfangent---------3
G-One--------------------#1 or #7
ilovemycat---------------#4 or #3 (I'm torn)
JaneB---------------------#1
marky49------------------#1
peacock------------------#1
richina--------------------TEXT #3
rubylove25
suncatcher---------------TEXT #1
____________________________________________________ And Text #1 FRIENDS OF
MAJICAT gets 6 out of 11 votes, which is a majority. Sun did you like text 7 as well??? did you change yours I changed mine from #2 to #1. I really wanted the ".com", but most didn't, so, like you, I decided to "go with the flow." |
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Post by ilovemycat on Apr 14, 2011 21:49:46 GMT -5
well - perhaps we should have voted for the logo first...and then once the logo was decided, voted on the text? I'm not sure about everyone else, but my text selection changes based on the logo used. I feel as though ".com" needs to accompany the dove to give it context...? And Elad brings up a very good point: I do have a question, shouldn't the tile say "From the Friends ..."? Otherwise, doesn't it seem like the tile is celebrating Majicat rather than honoring the center? Just a question. |
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Post by aurarisma on Apr 14, 2011 22:40:56 GMT -5
I really hate for this to sound like sour grapes, but I agree with Richina 100%. While the dove is beautiful, I don't think it reflects what we are about here. And if we are going with the dove, then maybe it should say .com after all, because there is nothing on that tile that ties it to us in any way (other than that we are a peaceful group ) I'm about the dove .. and about majicat .. I dont mind adding ".com" . he had the doves in the Majikat Tour tho too x |
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Post by suncatcher on Apr 15, 2011 1:37:15 GMT -5
Thank you to everyone for your feedback. As far as the concerns raised by Richina, Jane, and Andrea, I think I understand what you mean. But I also think that we have to respect the result of the vote that we had yesterday, since it represents the wishes of the majority of contributors. So, to resolve this, maybe we can consider an amendment that keeps our basic choice from yesterday but also addresses the issues that you’ve all brought up. I don't want anyone who's already voted to get upset, I don't want to start a new debate and have a revote, and I hope I'm not opening a can of worms, but what about adding a second line that addresses Richina's, Jane's, and Andrea's concerns? Is this just going to create a problem, or is it a good idea?  I can also see Andrea’s point that things look different when we see the logo and the text together. Putting this alongside Christina’s suggestion of having two choices to run by Mr. Habashi, I thought I’d better do one more mock up with the Cat Stevens face in case we might want to reconsider it.  BTW, I showed the mockup with the face of Cat Stevens to a twenty-year-old who isn’t a fan, and they didn’t know what majicat was nor whose face it was. So, even if we use the face for a second possible choice, I think it may be good to have that second line:  As for Elad’s question, which is a good one, I don’t know the answer! I only know that it seems obvious that the tile is “from” the name written on it, so maybe it’s redundant to write “From”. But if people want “From the Friends of Majicat” rather than “Friends of Majicat,” that’s an easy change, and maybe it doesn’t require a vote, but just posts from at least 6 of the contributors saying that’s what they want. (Personally, I prefer “Friends of Majicat”.) I may be wrong, but I doubt that any of us is in the mood for a long debate and revote, so again, I hope all this won’t open a can of worms. Please let me know what you think. Thank you ~Sun~     |
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Post by G-One on Apr 15, 2011 3:31:03 GMT -5
Yes, this a good solution Sun. Let's submit both designs with the second line and let them decide. I will be happy with both.
The dove stands for the spirit of the Maqam Center, Cat represents the MAJICAT-Board
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Post by JaneB on Apr 15, 2011 8:16:29 GMT -5
I didn't intend to muddy this and I'm sure Richina and ilovemycat didn't, either. For me, it was not really a concern as much as an additional thought. If we consider that the Maqam Centre and this tile will be around long after we're gone, then maybe less is more. For example, will "fan site" have any meaning in 200 years? Obviously none of us know the answer to that, but I wanted to put it out there for consideration. I like all four of the new mock-ups and Sun, thank you again for all of your late night work. Now go get some sleep |
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Post by M. on Apr 15, 2011 8:20:20 GMT -5
...just a trial:  |
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Post by ilovemycat on Apr 15, 2011 9:14:11 GMT -5
I am happy with all but the first - however, if that is what the majority decides on - I do not want to upset anyone who voted and already won, fair and square either.
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Post by richina on Apr 15, 2011 9:51:25 GMT -5
...just a trial: What great ideas everybody.....thanks for caring enough to reconsider. I didn't mean to "muddy the waters" (like Jane said), but my sister, who is also a fan, could understand the dove but asked me "Who could understand it if they weren't a long time, devoted, very astute fan?" Kinda made me go Hmmmmm? (I wouldn't really expect a 22 year old to recognize the face  ) I love this one M., sorta says it all, would explain itself years down the road, and would give the engravers a fit! With both images on the tile everyone would be happy, and all we'd need would be "FRIENDS OF MAJICAT"! I still like the EST. 1999 in order to give credence to the time frame we came from. But hey, I'm not that precious.....I'll go with the flow! I just want our tile to be very well thought out and to be noticed on that wall at the center. I also want Yusuf to feel great pride each time he walks by it and think "Man, those are my real peeps!" ;D Thanks everybody for all your hard work and consideration('specially Sun), I am duly impressed! |
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Post by aurarisma on Apr 15, 2011 10:05:59 GMT -5
I am happy with all but the first - however, if that is what the majority decides on - I do not want to upset anyone who voted and already won, fair and square either. I'm sticking with the Dove and the first original text altho if "From the " needs to be added I would go along with it it might be more correct english phrasing .. I hope you dont mind me saying but all this messy font below is just tooo much and Cat/Yusuf is welll.. I'm not for that its not peaceful and calm which is what the Center is about .. it like wearing a corsage a pin and a necklace at the same time lol... sorry just an analogy .. and I would be for our initials first if anything else were to be added .. This is about the Maqam Centre and unity and what Yusuf represents .. I believe truly that people willl google Majicat .. this is a google world !! and as far a alittle boy not knowing what majicat is with cats face he still will not but with a dove he will know it is a place of love unity and joy and so forth and it willl leave a peaceful beauty to all who see it .. that is the point for me .. xooxox Peace xoxoxoxoxo |
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Post by ilovemycat on Apr 15, 2011 13:27:02 GMT -5
I just want our tile to be very well thought out and to be noticed on that wall at the center. I also want Yusuf to feel great pride each time he walks by it and think "Man, those are my real peeps!" ;D Thanks everybody for all your hard work and consideration('specially Sun), I am duly impressed! This about sums it up....thanks for putting it into words for me I can't access M.'s pic from work  |
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Post by elad on Apr 15, 2011 14:28:55 GMT -5
My reservation about the tile is that, what ever is done, it honors the spirit intended for the building and it's purpose. I am okay with whatever decision is made by the group.
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Post by richina on Apr 15, 2011 15:43:25 GMT -5
My last thought on the matter, I swear (I think) ... I have purchased numerous bricks/tiles in my lifetime for various reasons... "in memory of", "in honor of", "in support of", etc. Most recently when my vet built a new clinic and put a memorial garden out back, I purchased a tile in memory of pets I had lost. When I went to the "open house" I noticed that all types of people and organizations were involved. Especially when the tile/brick is costly (as it is in our case), groups will come together to make the purchase. You will see personal inscriptions, tiles bought by churches, those purchased by companies, and various other entities. Some will include their company logo, some will have religious symbols such as crosses/doves/star of David/etc., and others will put some personal insignia or symbol if they are wealthy enough to have individually bought the tile. Many just send in a business card and ask that it be reproduced (long term advertising, as it were). I don't think this situation will be any different, there will be lots of types of tile inscriptions, including those "in memory/honor of". I believe that we are simply trying to establish a "logo" for our group. To me the CS face, with the dove, tells our whole story. We are in essence a fan site, but our over all feeling is one of peace, tranquility, and love. I don't truly believe our logo will be some type of blaring eyesore if both are included with the simple text "Friends of Majicat". I think it will be identifiable on several levels, all of which will be approriate for the spirit of the center. I think if Mr. Habish thought we were on the wrong track he would have politely said so. I will, of course, go along with what the group wants....just wanted to remind everyone of all possible scenarios. Thanks for letting me voice my opinion and not raking me over the coals for doing so. |
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Post by aurarisma on Apr 15, 2011 18:17:16 GMT -5
 didnt we vote already and majority won which is the dove and Friends of Majicat .. ...mmmm just a thought ..maybe we should view the interview from France he did yesterday it can be found in "Yusuf mentioned Anywhere". I'm done voting .... Majicat means CatStevens /Yusuf /Unity .. the Dove symbolizes that ... the dove unites Cat and Yusuf .. thats why we voted in the first place and it won by a landslide ... now, whats the point? Thank you Sun for all effort and time and also Jane .and the booths are closed .
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Post by JaneB on Apr 15, 2011 19:08:16 GMT -5
The point is that there is nothing wrong with providing and considering additional information, points of view and perspectives. Isn't that more important than the fact that we have all voted already? Unless there is a deadline or urgency that I'm not aware of, let people speak and voice their thoughts. This isn't a political election, so let's not shut down peoples' voices.
If there is so much opposition to letting people speak, maybe that peaceful dove isn't the right image after all.
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Post by aurarisma on Apr 15, 2011 19:44:48 GMT -5
theres no opposition to people speaking ...no victims here that is for sure .. We all talked about it, we put out all the logos, we finalized the selections and we were asked to vote and no one else said anything they all voted I was the last to vote and voila a peaceful dove appeared and for the beautiful reason that was created and Yusuf speaks so much about .. the perspectives and points of views were created so there is nothing after a vote - a vote is a way of getting a democratic decision so things can move forward We have voted ... and it is a peaceful dove .. peace and you are telling you dont think its the right logo....well all voted sometimes we win and sometimes we lose. I dont believe we lost here .. I believe a beautiful Dove sittting next to "Friends of Majicat" is Supreme and think that is what Yusuf feels that We are .. We are the doves in his life , that is why I had suggested it in the first place as one of the logos to vote on .. Majicat is Cat Stevens and the dove is the Power that transcends to make Cat and Yusuf unified which is what we are as well, because we have stayed as beautiful doves waiting for his Return, so now whats the point with all due respect to keep re-voting... no coals here beautiful people .. just never seen a vote get all started again .. its been quite organized thanks to Sun and Jane xo xo P.E.A.C.E.xoxoxoxoxoxxooooxxoxoxo |
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Post by richina on Apr 15, 2011 20:23:05 GMT -5
Oops, so much for not getting raked over the coals.  FYI...I only went to my vet's "open house" yesterday afternoon, that's when it occurred to me there would be a myriad of symbols on the tiles. If everyone wants a "generic" symbol to represent us, then who am I to judge? I only wanted our tile to be unique to our group and tell the world who we are in a special and recognizable way. It's okay with me, what ever the group wants....I simply wanted to point out some things that just recently came to mind. What's the harm in that? The booths may be closed, but I haven't opened my curtain to step out just quite yet. But hey, nothing is carved in stone..... oh wait, it soon will be. Don't worry, it's all good....I'm over it already. Peace, love and Bobby Sherman....blessings to all. xxxxxoooo |
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Post by aurarisma on Apr 15, 2011 20:57:26 GMT -5
richina.... and David Cassidy too!! ;D I understand how you feel but, have we thought about that maybe its not about majicat and the website per se it is bout 11 friends of majicat who are supporting the Maqam Center because of yusuf ..this isnt advertisement of a website per se ... it appeared to me to be friends that wanted to support him quietly peacefully in unity of his vision of bridging understanding of Islam. There is a reason why the dove was voted in if anything the second line if there was one might have included the initials of the people who are supporting ... I guess , but I wouldnt be opposed to 'from the friends of majicat.com' to escape that 2nd line
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Thank you for all these thank you's, Andrea. I'm glad you remembered God. 
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didnt we vote already and majority won which is the dove and Friends of Majicat .. ...mmmm just a thought ..maybe we should view the interview from France he did yesterday it can be found in "Yusuf mentioned Anywhere". I'm done voting .... Majicat means CatStevens /Yusuf /Unity .. the Dove symbolizes that ... the dove unites Cat and Yusuf .. thats why we voted in the first place and it won by a landslide ... now, whats the point? 