The Maqam Center

[peacock]

I love the logo w/Cat's face too -- love love love it -- but one of the reasons I chose the dove was that I am not sure the face would be *possible* to engrave like that on the tile, don't know how it would look - maybe I am wrong, I just thought the dove would look better on the finished piece.

The additional text seems too long IMO. Couldn't we just say, possibly, "Cat Stevens/Yusuf Islam fan group" or some such?

But I'm not picky. I love everything that is currently under consideration.

[ilovemycat]

I'm happy to go with the majority. They all look nice - I'm sure Yusuf will be touched just to see Majicat up there on the wall. And the dove is really what he is all about nowadays...and what the Center is about...so I'm cool with it. Maybe Yusuf would prefer his face not be on the tile anyway - the Centre isn't really about him.

I really wanted him to design our tile for us How cool would that have been? (not that Sun didn;t do an amazing job).

I thought, for some crazy reason, that they were going to be beautiful mosaic middle eastern looking tiles. I don't know where I got that idea in my head... ha ha

I think M's tile looks great too!

[JaneB]

Apr 15, 2011 19:44:48 GMT -5 aurarisma said:

theres no opposition to people speaking ...no victims here that is for sure .. We all talked about it, we put out all the logos, we finalized the selections and we were asked to vote and no one else said anything they all voted I was the last to vote and voila a peaceful dove appeared and for the beautiful reason that was created and Yusuf speaks so much about .. the perspectives and points of views were created so there is nothing after a vote - a vote is a way of getting a democratic decision so things can move forward We have voted ... and it is a peaceful dove .. peace and you are telling you dont think its the right logo....well all voted sometimes we win and sometimes we lose. I dont believe we lost here .. I believe a beautiful Dove sittting next to "Friends of Majicat" is Supreme and think that is what Yusuf feels that We are .. We are the doves in his life , that is why I had suggested it in the first place as one of the logos to vote on .. Majicat is Cat Stevens and the dove is the Power that transcends to make Cat and Yusuf unified which is what we are as well, because we have stayed as beautiful doves waiting for his Return, so now whats the point with all due respect to keep re-voting... no coals here beautiful people .. just never seen a vote get all started again .. its been quite organized thanks to Sun and Jane xo P.E.A.C.E.xoxoxoxoxoxxooooxxoxoxo

You ask "what's the point" and I ask "what's the problem?" What's the problem with someone providing additional information? What's the harm? There is no harm in it that I can see. A comment like "The booths are closed" seems like opposition to people speaking up to me. It sure doesn't encourage it...

We are not on a deadline. I want everyone to continue to voice their thoughts and opinions on the tile if they feel they have something to say. We're deciding on an engraving in a tile, for crying out loud, not a new world leader. No need to close and lock the voting booth.

[aurarisma]

then perhaps we should never have "voted" Jane. you're not respecting the vote cause we're not voting on a world leader ? oh ok...
but A vote is a vote... plain and simple .. excuse me for being candid,but we all went in with "the majority rules" .. and I've never heard of re voting in my life. , with all due respect,sometimes, we dont like what happens with the vote, but that is not respecting the people who voted .
we all agreed on voting ,
definition of voting is what it is .. and I usually go in with that in mind . you ask whats "the harm"? this is the harm .. alll this back and forth ... that is what voting is for lol to prevent all of this .. lol
the dove won the majority . if you want to change it around because you dont like what won well to me it is not fair . plain and simple. so I'm not going to go on about it anymore . I voted for what I want as well as the others. xo Peace xo

[JaneB]

The back and forth is because you keep expressing opposition to anyone raising additional thoughts - and I won't be silenced by anyone.

You've never heard of re-voting. So? I don't see how that means it can't happen. There is a first time for everything.

Lastly, I expressed my opinion and then clearly said I was happy with ANY of the four new mock-ups Sun created for us, but that doesn't mean I don't want to hear other suggestions from people if they have them. Someone might come up with a third image that we ALL like, but if they are afraid to do so because you declare "the booths are closed" we will never know that.

I will say once again that I think it is more important to hear everyone than to bang the gavel and declare "Done." I want us to be better than that.

[ilovemycat]

I have to agree with Jane - I don't see a problem in discussing the tile. It would be nice if everyone could feel happy with the outcome. If it's possible to please an many of the donators as possible, why not try? Obviously at some point if we have to agree to disagree we will, but have we reached that point already?

I think M's tile is nice - it kind of shows the transformation of Cat to Yusuf (in my opinion) from mega superstar musician, to peacemaker and bridge builder.

I suppose if Yusuf did not want his face on the wall, we would be informed of that by the Center...?

[richina]

I lied....here I go again.
Good grief, why is anyone getting so bent about me verbalizing my thoughts? Who died and made somebody boss? I'm not trying to change anything, merely pointing out some observations I've made recently.
When I saw the logo M. suggested I thought "How perfect, Cat's face and the dove.... the "then" and the "now" of Yusuf's journey!" (as well as the journey we've all taken on his behalf)
I likened it to the album cover of "A Sideman's Journey" where several images were combined to make a statement.
Cat's message was basically the same as Yusuf's....only brought from a slightly different place. The dove signifies, to me, Yusuf's emergence from "Cat" as well as his deeper tranquility after some "real living" took place. This is why I thought the combination of the images would be an ideal way to promote our feelings for Yusuf and show our support of his ongoing efforts to create harmony in the world.

But I'm done.... I was just explaining why I changed my mind after I saw the logo that M. came up with. I really figured everyone would love it...you know, an ideal compromise! And anyway, why wouldn't Yusuf want us to put his likeness on a tile? We've got his face plastered all over the internet and discuss it on a regular basis. (PS Last I checked, he's why we're here).
If he didn't like it....uh, wouldn't he have mentioned it by now?

So we're gonna have a dove on the wall....okay.
How funny, a bird with "cat" friends.

Now, I have officially opened my curtain and stepped out of the booth.

*La la la la* Does anybody hear that fat lady singing?

[ilovemycat]

Are Richina and me the only ones who like Cat's face with the dove?

It's getting a little embarrassing that I keep agreeing with everything Richina says ;D but I really feel the tile is perfect too. It really does seem to perfectly symbolize the transformation from Cat to Yusuf. I think it is a perfect compromise (thanks to M).

Then maybe we can all agree to have the text simple... (would you go for that Richina?) since the tile logo would then sort of explain it pretty well.

[richina]

Apr 16, 2011 13:57:31 GMT -5 ilovemycat said:

Are Richina and me the only ones who like Cat's face with the dove?

It's getting a little embarrassing that I keep agreeing with everything Richina says ;D but I really feel the tile is perfect too. It really does seem to perfectly symbolize the transformation from Cat to Yusuf. I think it is a perfect compromise (thanks to M).

Then maybe we can all agree to have the text simple... (would you go for that Richina?) since the tile logo would then sort of explain it pretty well.

sure, all I ever wanted was the logo to be more self explanatory ....but apparently it's a moot point.



hey whatta ya mean "it's gettin a little embarrassing..."?

[sunspark*]

I don't post much anymore and don't have a dog in this race, but these things seem to go in cycles - when I see 2 or 3 members posting all day every day and trying to completely dominate --- I run the other way!! Life is too short. Eventually people burn out and others take their place.

so yeah, if you are gonna try to own the boards, pretty soon you're just gonna be talking to yourself.

Why is it so important to dominate? I have never understood that!!! If people are still wanting to discuss the tile design, then obviously it's not "done".

[richina]

Thanks for the come uppance Sunspark....point taken.
Didn't mean to be a pill... guess we weren't through talking about the tile (or a couple of us weren't). Just that M.'s idea came about late and I really wanted everyone to consider it because it seemed so, well, perfect for us.

I will hush my dominating lips now. Going outside in the sun to play with my dogs. You're right, life's too short. Thanks for the reminder.

[sabina]

:)Hi..as an interested observer....and objectively

It looks like perhaps the vote was taken too soon if people are still discussing after the outcome of the vote...I guess some of you thougt that the vote was a final thing and some of you didn't..that seems to be the sticking point....

From past experience I know that you all will resolve this amicably,

I see no-one trying to score points ,its just that some of you understandably thought that the vote was final......
and some of you did not.....you can sort it out...I hope you dont see this post as interfering.........just trying to help with a completely objective stance........xx good luck and I hope my tile is next to yours....even if yours will be much nicer!! x

[sunspark*]

Richina, you are a silly girl!

My comment wasn't aimed at you - let's just say it was a general observation.

And sabina - you getting your own tile individually? woot!!!
what will you put on it? at any rate you won't have to worry about voting!!! ~lol

[sabina]

:)Hi sunspark*...I have been very interested in the Maqam for quite some time now and wanted to show my support......
This was at a time when I wrongly ,as it turns out, thought that this topic would not be welcome here..and would not be discussed never mind adopting a tile!..so yes I was alone in my decision....pity as I enjoy a good hustings!! ;D

[suncatcher]

I’ve been following this thread, thinking about what everyone is saying, and I have so many thoughts. I think my posts will be long, and I'm sorry for that. Thank you for your understanding and patience. Hopefully, we can begin to break up this log jam and start to move ahead again.

To begin with, I apologize for any misunderstandings that were caused by my posts. I hope that everyone knows that my intention is always to make everyone feel that their opinions are listened to, considered, and valued, and not to make anyone angry or upset.

Also, I want to thank everyone for caring enough to take the time to express your opinions and share your thoughts about the Majicat tile. I value each and every opinion, and I’m trying very hard to work with everyone to figure out how to merge all our ideas into an optimal solution that satisfies us all.

That’s why I posted those four new mock ups, and in particular, the two with the face of Cat Stevens. I was trying to respond to suggestions from several majicatters, including Richina, Jane, Andrea, and Christina, even though they came after the vote where the dove won first place as the logo. I thought Christina’s idea in particular was worth considering:

Apr 14, 2011 20:54:48 GMT -5 aurarisma said:

I really love the photo of Cat but it prob wouldt get approved why dont we send them both and see if they get both approved and go from there .. I like the dove because it bridges the gap to understanding which is what Cat/Yusuf is about ....I also like a music note whch i have good moc up for .. hard to really decide

So, even though Christina suggested this after the initial vote, I responded:

Apr 15, 2011 1:37:15 GMT -5 suncatcher said:

I can also see Andrea’s point that things look different when we see the logo and the text together. Putting this alongside Christina’s suggestion of having two choices to run by Mr. Habashi, I thought I’d better do one more mock up with the Cat Stevens face in case we might want to reconsider it.

In fact, I made all four of the latest mock-ups with the intention of moving forward and refining our design until everyone feels satisfied, even though none of us will get only our own way and we've all had to compromise.





So, to answer Christina’s question

Apr 15, 2011 18:17:16 GMT -5 aurarisma said:

didnt we vote already and majority won which is the dove and Friends of Majicat .. .. I'm done voting .... thats why we voted in the first place and it won by a landslide ... now, whats the point? ...and the booths are closed .

I would say the point is that even you, Christina, wanted us to reconsider the design after the vote. So let's do it!

In this way, all of us contributors can feel satisfied that our opinions have been considered and we've all done our best to compromise and come up with a final design that we all agree on sending to the Maqam Centre.

[suncatcher]

As for anyone who might still feel that our initial vote was "final" and therefore we’re not allowed to reconsider or improve on it, I‘d like to point out that no one ever said that the first vote was “final”.

Here is what I actually said before and during the voting process, and I think it's clear that it was considered as a first, initial decision, and not necessarily a "final" decision:

Apr 13, 2011 5:58:55 GMT -5 suncatcher said:

Here's a first attempt at voting. It's a bit of an experiment, so I hope it works out.

…
We need to vote until we choose one final one.

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Apr 13, 2011 6:15:42 GMT -5 suncatcher said:

Hope this works out and isn’t too confusing!

Apr 13, 2011 6:22:24 GMT -5 suncatcher said:

Thank you everyone for your patience with the voting. I hope we can make it work out.

And I think I made it clear that there might be modifications after the initial vote:

Apr 13, 2011 5:58:55 GMT -5 suncatcher said:

The last two are in color, but if one of them were chosen, it would have to be redrawn as a line drawing so it could be engraved.

Apr 13, 2011 6:18:37 GMT -5 suncatcher said:

Please Note:
I don't know anyone's initials, so to try Christina's suggestion of using our initials, I just plugged in ABC's. If the majority choose to use initials, then the ABC's would be replaced with our correct initials.

Apr 13, 2011 11:11:12 GMT -5 suncatcher said:

Apr 13, 2011 10:23:51 GMT -5 aurarisma said:

(heads up: they vestablished usually to est. ) xo

Thank you, Christina....If the text with "Established 1999" is finally chosen, we can shorten it if most of us would like to.

Apr 14, 2011 2:43:47 GMT -5 suncatcher said:

If everyone is happy with this, then the overall winner will be something like this:

Apr 14, 2011 2:51:11 GMT -5 suncatcher said:

...I hope everyone says they accept the design....Have to wait 'til morning to get feedback from everyone...

[/i]

Good night, anyone who's awake.

Peace,
~Sun~[/quote]

So, I think it's clear that the first vote eliminated logos and text we didn't want, but it did not close the door on further discussion and improvement to the design we do want.

[suncatcher]

Even though the first vote didn’t result in a “final” design, it did narrow our choices and help us to work toward an “initial” design.

In particular, it allowed us to collect all the suggestions we’d received for logos and determine our favorite choices for a logo.

1. 7 out of 11 votes
2. 4 out of 11 votes

____________________________________________

And, it allowed us to collect all the suggestions we’d received for lines of text and determine our favorite choices for the text.

And Text #1

FRIENDS OF
MAJICAT

got 6 out of 11 votes.

And Texts #3 and #4

FRIENDS OF MAJICAT
Established 1999

FRIENDS OF MAJICAT.COM
Established 1999

collectively got 4 out of 11 votes.

(I think we can consider text #3 and #4 to be essentially the same because in both cases people were saying they wanted "Established 1999.")

____________________________________________

However, after reading everyone's thoughts these last days, I've come to realize that it may not have been wise to simply declare one, overall winner from the initial vote:



It may have been wiser to consider both the first and second choices, put them together in different ways, discuss and debate them to our heart's content, and then have a second vote as a run-off.

And after the first vote was over, when I said "I may be wrong, but I doubt that any of us is in the mood for a long debate and revote...," I was wrong!

Actually, in view of everything in this thread, I believe that each and every contributor still has a right to express his or her opinions, and it's still good for all of us to consider minor changes that may improve our tile design, especially since nothing's been engraved yet. If we all remain open minded and willing to compromise, this will lead to the optimal design that we’ll finally send to the Maqam Centre for engraving.

[suncatcher]

A final thought I have from reading this thread in the last couple of days is that we’re not all so far apart as it may seem. For example, these posts in particular represent the spirit of cooperation and flexibility that everyone has. This spirit is what makes our Majicat tile possible and even fun to design together:

Apr 14, 2011 15:28:23 GMT -5 rubylove25 said:

I agree and Im happy to go with the majority

Apr 14, 2011 20:54:48 GMT -5 aurarisma said:

I really love the photo of Cat but it prob wouldt get approved why dont we send them both and see if they get both approved and go from there .. I like the dove because it bridges the gap to understanding which is what Cat/Yusuf is about ....I also like a music note whch i have good moc up for .. hard to really decide...

Apr 15, 2011 3:31:03 GMT -5 G-One said:

Yes, this a good solution Sun. Let's submit both designs with the second line and let them decide. I will be happy with both.
The dove stands for the spirit of the Maqam Center, Cat represents the MAJICAT-Board

Apr 15, 2011 8:16:29 GMT -5 JaneB said:

I like all four of the new mock-ups

Apr 15, 2011 9:14:11 GMT -5 ilovemycat said:

I am happy with all but the first - however, if that is what the majority decides on - I do not want to upset anyone who voted and already won, fair and square either.

Apr 15, 2011 9:51:25 GMT -5 richina said:

...I'll go with the flow! I just want our tile to be very well thought out and to be noticed on that wall at the center. I also want Yusuf to feel great pride each time he walks by it and think "Man, those are my real peeps!" ;D

Apr 15, 2011 14:28:55 GMT -5 elad said:

My reservation about the tile is that, what ever is done, it honors the spirit intended for the building and it's purpose. I am okay with whatever decision is made by the group.

Apr 15, 2011 15:43:25 GMT -5 richina said:

…I will, of course, go along with what the group wants....just wanted to remind everyone of all possible scenarios. Thanks for letting me voice my opinion and not raking me over the coals for doing so.

Apr 15, 2011 21:53:51 GMT -5 peacock said:

…I love everything that is currently under consideration.

Apr 16, 2011 0:00:19 GMT -5 ilovemycat said:

I'm happy to go with the majority. They all look nice - I'm sure Yusuf will be touched just to see Majicat up there on the wall. And the dove is really what he is all about nowadays...and what the Center is about...so I'm cool with it. Maybe Yusuf would prefer his face not be on the tile anyway - the Centre isn't really about him.

…I think M's tile looks great too!

So, in conclusion, it would be nice if can use this spirit of cooperation and compromise to eventually narrow everything down to just a couple of choices that everyone can live with, so we can then have a truly final vote, with no going back. We do have to finish sometime!

[ilovemycat]

;D

Sun - that was awesome!

[sabina]

:DI agree with ilovemycat...@sun....admired you already; ..after that inspired response,.. considering on being a groupie!!! Brilliant,what an inspired, diplomatic, caring skill you have...!!.Special peops here thats for sure!!
May God continue to bless you!!! x

[G-One]

Apr 15, 2011 8:20:20 GMT -5 M. said:

...just a trial:

This is my final vote ;D

It's a perfect compromise ...

[richina]

Apr 18, 2011 6:45:44 GMT -5 G-One said:

Apr 15, 2011 8:20:20 GMT -5 M. said:

...just a trial:

This is my final vote ;D

It's a perfect compromise ...

mine too....with or without the 2nd line.

[aurarisma]

Apr 14, 2011 22:40:56 GMT -5 aurarisma said:

Apr 14, 2011 21:13:07 GMT -5 ilovemycat said:

I really hate for this to sound like sour grapes, but I agree with Richina 100%. While the dove is beautiful, I don't think it reflects what we are about here. And if we are going with the dove, then maybe it should say .com after all, because there is nothing on that tile that ties it to us in any way (other than that we are a peaceful group )

I'm about the dove .. and about majicat .. I dont mind adding ".com" .
he had the doves in the Majikat Tour tho too x

Yes xooxoxo it was very very loving, and generous for you to take all our suggestions and make mockups sweet Sun ty for all the work you put into making the vote possible. it is greatly appreciated xoxox Peace .. xooxxoxo I hope you dont mind me putting my April 15th comment here in with all your April 15th requotes . ty xo peace
I dont agree about re-voting yet I understand why it is happening x even tho 7 out of 11 is a majority = I've just not come across this ever after mockups have been approved for voting ... in work, or creatively with art projects, so it is new to me, please forgive me xoxoxoxo
so.... here I go with my feelings anyway ... I'm just deeply saddened that the mockups are taking on such a commercial feel to them. Please know as i write I'm coming from a deep love from my heart .. I hope you know that about me .. for we all know only alittle about each other and why we have chosen our votes . hopefully as Sun has mentioned for the Love of God we can come to a compromise xo
Peace xo Praise God


going in with this idea :
This is a center for the Understanding of Islam and I hope we can all keep that in mind . Praising God . xo
~From the Friends of Majicat~ or ~Friends of Majicat.com ~ Friends of Majicat ~From the Friends of Majicat.com
I believe all are a nice first line.
on the second line, I dont feel its necessary to make it about Majicat.com again, when we are 11 friends of majicat personally supporting The Maqam Centre... and the bridging of understanding of Islam .. we had talked about putting our initials on 2nd line as donators .. which would be 22 characters letters some really liked it and then it was said by one that it might not fit on the tile ...... well, its not as long as 43 characters that has been put on the new mockups. I feel two lines of advertisement is overkill and it doesnt represent me as a donator, donating is personal for me as well.
Could we go with our personal initials or initials on the 2nd line? it would be representing each of us the 11 donators its less of a total advertisement of majicat only, and something personal to the 11 donators. It would be nice to see n feel when going into the spiritual center , it would mean so much to me on a spiritual level to have my intitials there as figurative candle lit , to show my personal support.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I have been praying alot on this area and in changing the logo.....mmmmm.... do you feel that it might not be appropos to have a Cat Stevens dove face ,or Cats face , when really he's one person, "Yusuf" ( he has mentioned it several times in the last 3 interviews as well )..its something to really think about . mmm I know he would like to have his curls back lol but I really am trying to think about this from Yusuf's soul...... from a selfless position .
. its alll a fine line .. isnt it .... ahh an idea just came to mind if we do the dove or the face with dove perhaps our initials could make up the olive branch that the dove is carrying.
Peace
xoxoooxo


Peace and have a beautiful week .. xo for some its their Holy Week.. have a most bright Week xoxo Hallelujah !! God help us xoxoxoxo

[suncatcher]

Okay, sounds like we’re getting back on track.

According to the Adopt a Tile Campaign, the tiles “…will form the walls of the main entrance hall of the Maqam Centre," so here is their picture in case it helps to try to imagine our tile there:


And here are the initial designs created by using our first and second choices from our first vote. (#1 is made with the two top choices.):

1. 2.

3. 4.
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And these are the suggestions we’ve received for modifying our initial designs. (The abc's in #5 would be replaced by our initials.):

5. 6.

7. 8.

9. 10.

Please note:
This is not for a vote at this time. It is for contemplation, discussion, comments, and further suggestions. So, everyone is once again invited and welcome to offer their thoughts and opinions, because it's our last chance to speak up or "forever hold our peace."

I think it would be good to make it understood from the outset that every opinion is given in the spirit of, "This is my opinion, and I'm not saying anyone has to agree, but thank you for letting me express it because we each have a right to express our own opinion," without the need to actually say that every time.

Also, we should be able to freely give our opinions without fearing that we'll be attacked for them afterwards. So, if we read an opinion that we strongly disagree with and feel the need to respond, then let's please say something tolerant such as, "I respectfully disagree, and here is what I think..."

These are just suggestions, but I think such an open and accepting attitude will go a long way in helping us to communicate our ideas.

If possible, it would be very good if we can somehow narrow the mock-ups down to just two before a final vote. Maybe we can eliminate some suggestions by general consensus within our posts and without the need for an official vote for every little decision. Then we can hold the final vote and have one final winner in the end, with no ties, no further modifications, and no going back. Then it will depend only on the engraver’s approval. (Please God, let it be approved by the engraver!)

Thank you for your continued patience and for sharing your thoughts.

Peace,
~Sun~

P.S. I know that some very good and insightful opinions have already been expressed concerning some of these mock-ups. I thought of bringing them all forward to this post, but that would be a bit overwhelming. So, we can go back and re-read the thread or anyone who would like can simply repeat their thoughts here, starting fresh. It's all good.

[suncatcher]

Apr 17, 2011 21:23:55 GMT -5 ilovemycat said:

;D

Sun - that was awesome!

Apr 18, 2011 1:23:54 GMT -5 @sabina said:

:DI agree with ilovemycat...@sun....admired you already; ..after that inspired response,.. considering on being a groupie!!! Brilliant,what an inspired, diplomatic, caring skill you have...!!.Special peops here thats for sure!!
May God continue to bless you!!! x

Just wanted to thank both of you. Your kind comments really lifted my spirits yesterday. May God bless you both. Yes, indeed, some really special peops around here. (And Sabina, I do welcome your opinions and everyone else's, too.)

Peace,
~Sun~

[ilovemycat]

I think I like the Cat face with the Dove too, (but does the dove kind of look like a hair clip over Cat's ear lol) - and then if this were the one chosen i would probably prefer the text to be simple since there is already enough going on.

If the plain dove is still the winner - I would want textual context - maybe a .com or the "fan site" line.

Christina - I can understand why you would want the tile personalized with your initials, but I think aesthetically it just doesn't look that great. And for other non-majicatters looking at it - it may seem like gooblie gook (and I mean that in the nicest sense of the word). That is basically why I haven't supported the initials concept.

[aurarisma]

@ilovemy cat Im not sure that you do understand the reason why I want my initials , ;D it is a peaceful personal reason . right now we are only seeing the alphabets there instead of our initials.. Its not "goobliegook" to me . but that is not my first choice really ..
My first choice ((((( "From Friends of
Majicat.com" ( no the )
( *two lines )
and the DOVE logo )
or
"Friends of
Majicat.com (two lines)

but since everyone was starting to think about that massive 2nd line of advertisement ..then I thought we might be able to have initials instead of that, so thats why I was suggesting it if we start thinking about that massive fansite line
...
I like it the original way -first vote with maybe ".com" or "From Friends of Majicat.com " .. short sweet.... and peaceful ... they will look it up on computer and it will flow and soar heavenly in the main entrance .
and I'm sure they have heard of Majicat.com if they have gone on YusufIslam.com ..it is there.
Majicat is respected by me to the utmost, as is Christine xoxox and yet for me donating to The Magam Center is more than just Majicat to me .. its a declaration for me -it is for a spiritual reason as well.....

I would like to see initials .... you had thought "goobliegook" .. yet I think seeing the initials are quite special and "what if someone sees the initials? to me, ,they are "someone." and special.

so going forward my choice is original vote :
DOVE with "From Friends of Majicat.com" (on two lines) no "the"
or:
"Friends of Majicat.com"

2nd choice * 2nd line having initials only if we are thinking of that 43 character advertisement line .. or established line .. I believe it is enough with
"From friends of
Majicat.com"

Thank you for letting me speak my mind xoxoxoxxxo
I'm going to be away this week abit and dont have really much more to add I'm afraid.. I love and respect you all and I hope you really can understand why I donated to the tile as I am learning of your reasons too.
Love and Peace
oxoxoxooxooxox
ty @sun xoxox

xoxoxoxoxo
Peace
PS> I do agree with you ilovemycat that the Cat Stevens photo looks like he is wearing a dove hairclip
thanks again
Peace x

[suncatcher]

I just went through the entire thread, read everyone's comments for every mock-up we did, looked at the voting results for each contributor and made a quick mock-up for each with their favorite logo and text, and then put everything together in a file and shuffled everything around until I narrowed things down to these compromises:







Any thoughts?

I would like to narrow it down further, but need more input from everyone. I think that six mock-ups are still too many to vote on.

Thanks everyone.

~Sun~

[aurarisma]

xoxoxo "From Friends of Majicat.com- would u be able to do a mock up of that Sun please ?... Im not in to the massive 2nd line advertisements I'm a donator as we all our , but two lines of ad is not what I had in mine when I donated on a personal note... maybe we should keep the original vote .
Peace xo

[suncatcher]

Apr 19, 2011 3:07:44 GMT -5 aurarisma said:

xoxoxo "From Friends of Majicat.com- would u be able to do a mock up of that Sun please ?... Im not in to the massive 2nd line advertisements I'm a donator as we all our , but two lines of ad is not what I had in mine when I donated on a personal note... maybe we should keep the original vote .
Peace xo

"From Friends of Majicat.com" is included in the list of 6 possibilities up there in the previous posts.

Yes, maybe we should keep the original vote. It's still the only one that the majority has agreed on so far, so it looks right now as if it will remain the winner. If our attempts to improve it don’t get anywhere, maybe that means there is nothing better and we should just keep it. But let’s wait and see.

Peace,
~Sun~